5 Plants

Thursday, April 10th, 2008

That’s all this poor guy had growing in his garage. For that…

Steve Haver spent a weekend in jail on $1 million bail, wound up with a felony conviction for drug manufacturing, lost his driver’s license for six months, and expects to lose his job as general manager of the performing arts center at Penn State’s York campus.

The case has been on the front page of the local paper more than most murders, he said.

After being arrested and jailed on $500,000 bail, Karen Haver quickly lost her job as manager of the Sovereign Performing Arts Center in Reading.

Monday, though, the couple got some good news: Authorities wouldn’t seize her house after all – just the growing equipment.

So they’ll get to keep their house. See, the drug laws aren’t so bad!

Of course, Ryan Frederick wasn’t even growing marijuana. And the government’s now trying to execute him.

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14 Responses to “5 Plants”

  1. #1 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Civilization is no different from barbarism in the sense that it only persecutes those members of society who are commonly thought to be disposable. The drug war won’t end until stories like the ones we read on this site inflame people the way civil rights issues did back in the 60s.

    Personally, the rationale that it’s acceptable to destroy someone’s life in order to protect them from something so benign as pot sickens me. And it sickens me even more knowing that the people who support this kind of mob violence against their fellow citizens will escape the justice that they so aptly deserve.

  2. #2 |  Ben | 

    One can easily drink oneself to death in short order with the blessing of the gummint and hopefully not kill anyone on the highway before the grim reaper calls.

    But let someone try growing giggleweed and watch the blackbooted hounds unleashed.

    Cannabis laws are based on ignorance and/or stupidity and are a disgrace.

  3. #3 |  Michael Pack | 

    As a non smoker ,how much pot does 5 plants really produce?I’ve heard the police count the whole plant at times to make it seem like more.I thought just the ‘bud’ or flower is used.This seems like a whole lot of punishment over very little product.Plus,who turned this guy in and why?

  4. #4 |  Ben | 

    how much pot does 5 plants really produce?

    5 plants would probably produce 1-1.5lbs of dried, smokable bud, depending on the variety, method of harvest and ability of the grower. It could be significantly more as well.

    My guess is it was a head stash for half a year or so.

    I’ve heard the police count the whole plant at times to make it seem like more. I thought just the ‘bud’ or flower is used.

    Yes. You can refine the plant itself by extracting the essential oil as well. However, it’s in the magnitude of grams per pound of oil:plant. Not only do they count the whole plant, but often time they double or triple the street price when saying “Police Seized $500,000 worth of pot”

  5. #5 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #3 Michael Pack
    I thought just the ‘bud’ or flower is used.

    I’m working on a hybrid plant that produces finished joints that you can pick and smoke immediately. It’s almost ready. I just need to perfect the addition of a few genetic traits common to kudzu.

  6. #6 |  Chris | 

    Nobody turned him in. He was on vacation or at their summer house or something when his burglar alarm went haywire and summoned the police.

  7. #7 |  Robert S. Porter | 

    But, but, but didn’t you hear that marijuana causes schizophrenia?!

    Why don’t businesses ever support their workers when caught by the stupid drug laws? Or do they all just buy the government’s line on this?

  8. #8 |  Zeb | 

    Tip #1, if you are growing weed, do not have a burglar alarm, especially one which automatically summons the police.

    Common sense would dictate that small time growing should be even less of an offense than small time possession. If you are growing, you aren’t even involved with the criminal black market (once you have some seeds) and if you give or sell some to friends, you are saving them as well from criminal interaction and questionable product.

    But of course, that sends the wrong message.

  9. #9 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #7 Robert S. Porter
    Why don’t businesses ever support their workers when caught by the stupid drug laws? Or do they all just buy the government’s line on this?

    What drives me nuts is that many businesses fall all over themselves jumping on the drug war bandwagon with continuous drug testing and public proclamations about being a drug free workplace and all that.

    I’ve always wondered just how threatening drugs can be if you can’t tell someone was using them without a blood or urine test. Whatever happened to judging an employee by his job performance (instead of discriminating based on his lifestyle preferences outside of work).

    I know, I’m treading close to the boundary of being off topic…

  10. #10 |  Patrick | 

    Michael #3,

    Plant yield is dependent on a number of circumstances. Without seeing the growing setup and the cultivator’s plan it’s impossible for anyone to make a definitive estimate.

    The potential yield is anywhere from 0-10 pounds. Of course given the proper care, nutrition and if the strain is right they can even produce more than that. I’ve personally seen marijuana plants that were 8-10 feet tall and 8 feet across with cola buds as big as a grown man’s arm. They are of course the exception rather than the rule. Also as a general rule marijuana grown outdoors has a higher potential yield than indoor.

    There’s also the perspective issue. The defense tries to minimize yields while the prosecution tends to inflate them. Depending on where you look, you’ll find a great disparity in estimates depending on their P.O.V. Hightimes.com is a good source of plant yield information.

  11. #11 |  Bob | 

    Sorry, something i just wanted to clarify as a Brit…
    ( dope is now a class C drug here, and even if it were class A, employers have NO right to invade your privacy like that )

    Are you REALLY legally required to P*** in a cup at work ?!?

    erm, sorry I thought I was reading a blog from the ‘land of the free’. My mistake.

  12. #12 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #11 Bob
    …employers have NO right to invade your privacy like that…

    The American voting public, through their elected representatives, have been on a 200 year crusade to abolish privacy. We’re trying to convert Orwell’s “1984″ from a work of fiction into a documentary.

    We’re almost there.

  13. #13 |  Pat Rogers | 

    Welcome to Pennsylvania. Still overcompensating for that damned constitution being written here.

  14. #14 |  Dave_D | 

    Processing the whole plant will do you no good at all. While you can get oils out of the plant only the female flowers contain any measureable amount of the active ingredient THC.

    The house must be mortgaged to the hilt or the government wouldn’t think twice about taking it. If they are like lot’s of folks in the present market their house isn’t worth close to what’s owed on it. The feds can say what they want but you can believe the reason is dollars and cents.

    I remember reading an article in the paper in the early nineties about the feds seizing cars on the interstate because a roach was found in the ashtray. The federal prosecutor was quoted as saying
    “Don’t tell me it’s not fair to take a new car over a roach. We don’t care about whats fair and that’s just the way we operate”.

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