Hayne Responds

Wednesday, April 9th, 2008

Dr. Hayne has responded in Jackson’s Clarion-Ledger to a complaint filed by the national and Mississippi Innocence Projects to revoke his medical license. And to vouch for his credibility, he has summoned none other than District Attorney Forrest Allgood—the same guy who has had three murder convictions overturned, and who continued using "bite-mark expert" Dr. Michael West more than a decade after the disgraced dentist was exposed as a fraud.

Here, a closer look at Hayne and Allgood’s comments:

"My experience with Hayne is that 99 times out of 100 he testifies this guy died and this is how he died," Allgood said. "How is that in any way convicting innocent people?"

I’m not even sure what this means. In the Tyler Edmonds case, Hayne put his medical expertise behind a prosecutors theory that two people held the gun that fired the bullets that killed a man. His testimony in the Cory Maye case was critical in casting doubt on Maye’s credibility with the jury. In the Devin Bennett and Jeffrey Havard cases, Hayne’s testimony that infant deaths were homicides instead of accidents was really the only evidence presented against the men. Both were sentenced to death. Hayne routinely testifies to matters well beyond the mere cause of death, many times well beyond his area of expertise.

The National Association of Medical Examiners limits pathologists to fewer than 250 autopsies a year.

Hayne said such a number is arbitrary. "There’s one group that says you shouldn’t do more than 350, and there are other groups that don’t have a limit," he said. "Should I call the Innocence Project to see if I’ve done too many and stop?"

NAME is widely considered the guiding professional organization for forensic pathologists. But I’d challenge Hayne to find any medical organization willing to give its approval to the 1,500 to 1,800 autopsies he does per year. It isn’t that he does 10 or 15 more than he should. It’s that he does 5-8 times as many as he should. While testifying 2-3 times per week. And holding other jobs.

He estimates he works 110 hours a week. "Some people were put on this earth to party, and some people were put on this earth to work," he said. "I’ve always worked very hard."

And a forensic pathologist whose conclusions and trial testimony can determine whether or not someone is found guilty of murder shouldn’t be working 110 hours per week. It’s simply not possible to put in that kind of time and do an adequate job. Hayne’s history of sloppy work bears this out.

Innocence Project officials say Hayne has wrongly testified he is "board certified" in forensic pathology. By contending he is board certified, officials say this is an obvious reference to the American Board of Pathology.

Hayne disputed that claim.

He said the American Board of Pathology has never construed its board as superior. He said he is certified in anatomical pathology and clinical pathology by that board. He is certified in forensic pathology by the American Board of Forensic Pathology.

Any forensic pathologist will tell you that in order to work in most hospitals, testify in court, and generally be accepted as "board certified" in a particular medical specialty, you have to be certified by an organization approved by the American Board of Medical Specialties. And in forensic pathology, that means a certification in the sub-specialty of forensic pathology by the American Board of Pathology.

No forensic pathologist I’ve talked to has heard of the "American Board of Forensic Pathology." It sounds suspiciously like the organization Hayne should have been certified by, but is just a bit off. The organization apparently doesn’t have a website. It’s also just one of several organization of dubious merit from which he has claimed certification over the years. Given that Hayne only seems willing to speak to the Clarion-Ledger, perhaps a reporter there could ask him more about this mysterious organization. Does he have an actual certificate from them? Where are they located? What did he have to do to get certified?

He said the American Board of Pathology hasn’t certified him because he walked out of the examination. He said he got angry at what he regarded as a stupid question – ranking in order what colors are associated with funerals instead of asking questions about forensic pathology.

"I’ve got a temper. I don’t put up with crap like that," he said. "I walked out and took another examination from another board."

And yet for decades thousands of forensic pathologists have managed to take the same exam without storming off in anger.

Sometimes defense lawyers will ask for the funds to hire an expert to challenge Hayne, Allgood said. "So far I have yet to see any of them come and testify, which only leads me to the conclusion they agree with what he said."

Allgood is flat-out lying. First, many times when a defense attorney in Mississippi asks the court for funds to hire an expert to challenge Hayne, he is denied. That’s what happened in the Jeffrey Havard case. Moreover, I personally know of cases in which Allgood was the prosecutor, where defense attorneys were able to procure an expert to counter Hayne. It’s not surprising to see Allgood hedge and mislead on this stuff. But he’s now brazenly lying on matters that can be pretty easily verified.

Finally, some comic relief:

Hayne said he’s the victim of modern-day McCarthyism by a group whose real aim is to gut the death penalty in Mississippi and other states.

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37 Responses to “Hayne Responds”

  1. #1 |  Nick T | 

    Wow, just wow.

    Yeah, when I sat for the Bar Exam and answered those 200 multiple choice questions, I swear to baby jesus I would have walked out if they asked me some question about who is the greatest baseball player ever, or something. “I’m here to take a test about the Law, bitches!” I would have screamed. “You better ask me something about habeas corpus, or covenants that run with some god-damn land or so-help-me, I will burn this mother to the ground!” Then I would have walked out, and probably never sat for that exam again. Then I’d just give out legal advice to people anyway, and get a nifty card from Massachussetts Association of Bar related Activities.

    I wonder what Dr. Hayne scored on that other exam?

  2. #2 |  Michael Pack | 

    I’m sorry,I do not believe he works 110 hours a week.This make him a liar in my view,let alone the other stuff.Besides,after that many hours your work would take a downturn.This man is a fraud.

  3. #3 |  Bronwyn | 

    I’ll go back and read the remainder of your post, but I just have to work through a little arithmetic first.

    There are 168 hours in a week. He works 110 of those hours? Ok, that leaves 58 hours, or 8h 16m a day for sleeping, eating, shitshowernshaving and time with the wife and kids (assuming he has them, he may not – I hope he doesn’t).

    I’m sorry, but I have to call bullshit. This man is so full of it, it’s coming out his god damn ears.

  4. #4 |  Bronwyn | 

    Oh, and I forgot commuting. How far does he live from the courthouses and his fantastically efficient autopsy lab?

    Is he counting his commute in those 110 hours?

  5. #5 |  Bronwyn | 

    Oh. And some more math (sorry, I can’t stop now).

    110 hours a week times 52 weeks is 5720 hours. Divide that by 1500 and we have 3h 48m TOPS that he can dedicate to each autopsy. If he does 1800 autopsies, that drops to 3h 10m. But of course, he’s testifying and commuting, too.

    Let’s say his total time, travelling and testifying at these 2-3 cases per week takes 20 hours a week – and I acknowledge that at this point, I’m only guessing because Hayne hasn’t indicated his time commitment here. That leaves him with 3h 7m to 2h 36m per autopsy.

    What would he say if faced with these numbers, I wonder?

  6. #6 |  Jim N | 

    If Hayne feels the need to respond, then maybe that means he’s now at least a little bit scared.

  7. #7 |  Nick T | 

    Can someone dig up that question about colors and funerals? Is there a Forensic Pathologist who remembers that question when he/she sat for the same exam.

    There seems to be a ton of actual confirmable stuff that Hayne and Allgood are saying here. With liars like this, it would be a shame not to dig up every last detail to see if (ha, more like how poorly) they are telling the truth.

    Might make a decent Fox column, Radley, fisking the crap out of these guys’ own words.

  8. #8 |  Bernard | 

    Their response is unfortunate, but it’s not terribly surprising.

    Theirs is the classic snake-oil combination of utterly confident smooth talk and an astute calculation over public hot buttons. By painting themselves as honest hard-working public servants and their opponents as bleeding heart pinkos they’ve survived and thrived for a decade.

    Why would they change now?

  9. #9 |  Lil'B | 

    I find the 110 hour work week absurd. In researching the average work week for a medical doctor I found that doctors under 36 averaged 54 hours and that doctors over 36 averaged 50 hours. Even the medical residency have cut their work weeks down to 80 hours finding that there was an increase in error with the previous standard of 100- 110 hours/week.

  10. #10 |  Danno49 | 

    Where the hell are the feds on this? Oh I forgot, they’re busy saving us from the scourge of pornography and prescription drugs.

    Fuckers. If there was ever a reason for the Federal government to poke their head in and do something, it’s a case like this. But alas, when they are really needed, they are no where to be found.

  11. #11 |  pam | 

    My jaw is still stuck on open. Doesn’t it figure Hayne would try the old they are trying to abolish the death penalty stunt? This is a new defensive maneuver isn’t it? He’s digging deep into his bag of tricks now. It’s laughable indeed. McCarthyism? No, Hayneism!

    Thanks Mr. Balko for keeping the heat on. I’ve spent the last 2 years of my life supporting and fighting for a 15 year old boy serving natural life partly due to Hayne’s testimony that he knew what a defensive wound looked like even though the victim was a much larger man with mental illness who was in a rage. And even though the family reported mental degeneration diagnosed by a family doctor, Hayne never tested brain tissue or even perserved any for later testing, despite the fact that the boy was claiming self-defense. The jury believed Hayne’s testimony coupled with coerced, purjured testimony presented by the two prosecutors in the case, and convicted the boy of capital murder. Hayne was the only expert called and the boy was the only defense witness, testifying on his own behalf after surviving 9 months in the Tupelo County Detention Center, the youngest child in there, non-violent, no criminal past, artistically and academically gifted student.

    The fight goes on to undo, what Hayne has done.

  12. #12 |  pam | 

    evil doesn’t have to have horns, it can just look like Hayne. This may be a little mean, but it doesn’t look like he does have time for a shower.

  13. #13 |  Blue | 

    I’ve worked 16 hour days, 7 days a week for about 4 weeks straight after which time I had to take a week off. I was so stressed, exhausted, and burnt out that I ended up quitting the job a month later. It’s not something that any normal person could do for months on end. Radley has reported before that Dr. Hayne and his staff eat meals while working on multiple cadavers at a time, so the 3/hr/autopsy estimate doesn’t apply. I can’t imagine his lab not being a complete clusterfuck.

    If Hayne thinks this is McCarthyism, then where is the defamation suit? Destroying someone’s professional reputation warrants restitution if the charges are malicious. If the good doctor really thought that the Innocence Project has an agenda to destroy him then why isn’t he in court getting some protection?

    And one other thing. Why is a forensic pathologist a champion of the death penalty. Is he that hard up for business?

  14. #14 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Well, Hayne, how about we meet in the middle and just abolish the death penalty for innocent people?

  15. #15 |  pam | 

    and why the child languished in jail for 9 months is beyond me since no investigation was done and no evidence was tested other than it took that long for the prosecutors to extract the lies from a 15 year old abused girl from Florida who claimed the boy was innocent for 8 months until in the 9th month just before trial, she “changed her mind”.

    And how about we abolish “lwop” for children while we’re at it.

  16. #16 |  Danno49 | 

    Dr. Hayne:

    “Should I call the Innocence Project to see if I’ve done too many and stop?”

    You don’t need to call them. How about you just stop?

  17. #17 |  Danno49 | 

    Doggonit my HTML skilz iz rusty.

  18. #18 |  Seth Goldin | 

    Radley, keep up the excellent work. It must be difficult exposing the worst of scum, but it’s important, valuable work.

  19. #19 |  mjhlaw | 

    Radley,

    Want to add my support, this is important and valuable work. It is an uncommon mind that can dig into the details as you have and then demonstrate such persistence in fighting the good fight.

    One observation: your argument depends somewhat upon the validity of accrediting organizations to establish “Dr.” Hayne’s lack of qualifications. One might argue that this is a weak point, considering the Institute of Justice and your criticism of these accrediting organizations in the past as barriers to entry erected by the practitioners to guarantee their profitability (e.g. Interior Decorators; African Hair Braiders, etc.). Of course, there is an argument that highly skilled occupations must self-regulate to ensure their members are competent, but doesn’t this leave you open to attach? How can this seeming inconsistency in your argument be reconciled?

    Is it simply a fact-based inquiry on when accrediting organizations are useful and when they are not?

    I ask not because I disagree with you; but b/c I fear this may be a potential weakness in your argumentation, and should be shored up.

  20. #20 |  Nick T | 

    mjhlaw,

    I think you raise a fiar point, but it’s not always a straight comparison.

    First, Dr. Hayne is essentially lying about what organizations he is a member of by saying he is “accredited.” So whether the organization is a true sign of quality or not, the issue is still relevent as to his willingness to lie.

    Second, to answer your last question, I think the answer is an overwhelming yes. Certain professions do need licensure or accredidation as a means of protecting consumers and the public. It’s not always easy to distinguish between which professions need it and which don’t, but I would think that where the position requires experttise well-beyond what the average person could understand even after having received the service, that will usually militate towards the need for licensure or accredidation.

    So, either you like the interior design of your home or you don’t, and that’s that, but you can’t tell how well your gallbladder surgery went just by whether or not you still have stomach pains a few weeks later (I have no idea if that is medically reasonable sounding, but I thik you get my point).

    Third, and most importantly this person is being used for his expertise in a proceeding where the purpose is to determine the truth. There are no market forces to police his accuracy and effectiveness, little room for error and sadly the people who hire him often WANT his work to be inaccurate. So how else do we make sure someone is truly an expert in something other than by what other experts say about his work and what conventional, peer-reviewed, thinking has to say about his methods?

  21. #21 |  Highway | 

    mjhlaw, as Nick said, it’s a fair point, but I think ultimately it’s both an Apples to Oranges comparison, and it’s also a difference of customer.

    If the state of Mississippi were to pass a law saying that the state Medical Examiner (ME) must be a member of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME), or even that all state prosecutors only use ME’s who are members of NAME, that is significantly different from even saying that all ME’s in the state must be members of NAME. Someone could still practice as an ME without those credentials, although they’d be kinda up a creek for being believed.

    Now, with the recent fracas with ASID, the thrust of their proposed legislation DOES seem to be that ALL people who practice Interior Design, according to their definition, be forced to accredit with ASID, or they will be unable to practice that business, due to some sort of punishment.

    Basically, the government is free to limit who it can hire all it wants, and that’s the difference between the two kinds of situations.

  22. #22 |  nom de guerre | 

    radley, yours is easily the most infuriating blog i read: i’ll agree mightily with your views one second, and then throw things at the monitor at the very next thing you post.

    but your work on mississippi and “dr.” hayne really IS top-flight, important stuff. it’s going to actually change a broken and corrupt system, (to some degree, anyway. the important thing is the change will be for the better.), and innocent people *who would have suffered under the current system* won’t be railroaded.

    and it’ll happen fairly soon, i’d bet: all bureacracies hate accountability and bad publicity. even better, now you’ve got the SOB tossing out obvious and *provable* lies (“ah work in mah sleep!!”) to defend himself. start the clock: hayne’s toast. you get most of the credit for that.

    (tips hat.)

  23. #23 |  pam | 

    This is how it comes down in an actual trial:

    HAYNE – VOIR DIRE (JURY OUT) 229
    1 DR. STEVEN T. HAYNE
    2 having been called as a witness by the State, was sworn
    3 and testified as follows:
    4 THE COURT: Let the record show the jury is
    5 outside the courtroom.
    6 All right, Mr. Geddie.
    7 MR. GEDDIE: May it please the Court, comes
    8 now the State and the Defendant for the purposes
    9 of this hearing and stipulate that Dr. Hayne is
    10 an expert in the field of pathology, forensic
    11 and clinical pathology with vast experience.
    12 MR. BRISTOW: That is correct, Your Honor,
    13 and I’ve also offered to stipulate with the
    14 State’s attorney to the doctor’s qualifications
    15 as an expert when the jury is seated.

    (JURY RETURNS INTO COURTROOM AT 3:47 P.M.)
    12 THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen of the
    13 jury, the next witness has been sworn outside
    14 your presence.
    15 Mr. Geddie, you may proceed.
    16 MR. GEDDIE: Thank you.
    17 DIRECT EXAMINATION
    18 BY MR. GEDDIE:
    19 Q. Would you state your name, please, sir?
    20 A. Steven Timothy Hayne, Counselor.
    21 Q. And your occupation?
    22 A. I’m a physician working in the fields of
    23 anatomic, clinical, forensic pathology, sir.
    24 Q. And would you explain what a pathologist does?
    25 A. If one’s working in anatomic or clinical
    26 pathology, one commonly works in the laboratory or
    27 hospital setting looking at tissues, determining if
    28 disease is present or absent or what type of disease from
    29 the tissue removed from patients, overseeing the

    HAYNE – DIRECT 239
    1 laboratory itself.
    2 I work in one of the subspecialties of
    3 pathology, that being forensic pathology. In forensic
    4 pathology or legal pathology the two most important tasks
    5 are the determination of the cause of death and manner of
    6 death involved in the death of a human being. The cause
    7 of death is the medical reason that person died, whether
    8 it be from a gunshot wound or cancer or heart attack.
    9 There are literally thousands of possibilities. While the
    10 manner of death is classifying that death; whether it be
    11 suicide, accident, homicide, natural, some cases pending
    12 until additional information is gathered and some cases
    13 undetermined. One may not come to a final conclusion when
    14 all the evidence is present. There are many other tasks
    15 in each of those three fields, but those are the primary
    16 tasks of a pathologist working in anatomic, clinical and
    17 forensic pathology.
    18 Q. Would you explain to the jury your education and
    19 training, first of all, to become a pathologist?
    20 A. That was — first you have to graduate from
    21 medical school, and then you have to do your pathology
    22 training in a formal residency program.
    23 Q. And where did you do your undergraduate and your
    24 medical school and your pathology residency? 25 A. I did three years of undergraduate work at North
    26 Dakota State University, and I graduated from medical
    27 school at Brown University, then went on pathology
    28 training at Letterman Army Medical center at the Presidio,
    29 SanFrancisco.

    HAYNE – DIRECT 240
    1 Q. And what is the meaning of board certified?
    2 A. It usually means that you have passed some
    3 minimal standard test or if you’re old enough, you’ve been
    4 grandfathered into a position of recognized basic
    5 expertise in the field.
    6 Q. All right. Now beyond being a pathologist, to
    7 be a forensic pathologist, does it take additional
    8 training or education?
    9 A. I rotated, myself personally rotated at the
    10 medical examiner’s officers for the city and county of San
    11 Francisco.
    12 Q. For how long, sir?
    13 A. The total? Almost a year.
    14 Q. And have you received any board certifications?
    15 .Yes,Counselor. 16 Q. In what particular field, Doctor?
    17 A. Anatomic pathology, clinical pathology, forensic
    18 pathology, forensic medicine.
    19 Q. And have you had occasion to testify in the
    20 courts of this state, United States, or any other state or
    21 the military as an expert in the field of forensic
    22 pathology?
    23 A. Yes, Counselor, this state, other states,
    24 federal court, as well as when I was in the military under
    25 military general court marshals under the Uniform Code of
    26 Military Justice.
    27 Q. On how many occasions have you testified, to the
    28 best of your knowledge, as an expert in the field of
    29 forensic pathology?

    HAYNE – DIRECT 241
    1 A. I don’t keep an exact number, Counselor, but
    2 somewhere around 4,000, maybe 4,500.
    3 Q. Now, in the field of forensic pathology, are you
    4 required to examine bodies of the deceased?
    5 A. It is.
    6 Q. To try to–
    7 A. I’m sorry.
    8 Q. To try to determine the manner of the death and
    9 the cause of death?
    10 A. It’s one of the tasks that one commonly
    11 performs. Yes, Counselor.
    12 MR. GEDDIE: At this time, Your Honor, I
    13 would tender Dr. Hayne as an expert in the field
    14 of, all the fields of pathology, including .
    15 forensic pathology.
    16 THE COURT: The Defendant’s already
    17 stipulated qualification, Counselor. You may
    18 proceed.
    19 MR. CEDDIE: Thank you, Your Honor.

  24. #24 |  chris | 

    I work 110 hours a week, am a cardiothoracic surgeon. During residency I averaged 122, and 130 during fellowship. You can check my O.R. logs for the proof. Surgeons routinely work 100hrs/week.
    Yep, we docs work harder than you. We also got better grades than you in HS, college…. Not sticking up for this guy, but am sticking up for docs in general.

    P.S. not believing someone does NOT make that someone a liar.

  25. #25 |  Radley Balko | 

    Did you work 110 hours per week every week of the year for 20 years?

    That’s what Hayne says he does. Never takes a sick day, a vacation, of a holiday.

    And spare me the chest-puffing. I defend doctors on this site all the time.

  26. #26 |  pam | 

    Doc, what’s there to believe? In 3 cases, he’s been proven a liar.

  27. #27 |  mjhlaw | 

    Nick/HighwayT,

    Thanks for the responses. I think you each contribute great ideas as to when an accrediting organization would be “legitimate” in the eyes of a reasonable libertarian. I think they are:
    1.) When market forces cannot be brought to bear to ensure quality of the product/service
    2.) when the product/service poses potential harm to the consumer, and the harm can only be compensated ex post or avoided ex ante.
    3.) when the government is the primary customer of the product/service

    I think these are reasonable distinctions from ASID attempting to drive competitors out of the market, but still a ripe area for challenge.

  28. #28 |  Jim Collins | 

    I think the guy has been hanging around lawyers too long. Is he working 110 hours per week or billing 110 hours per week?

  29. #29 |  nom de guerre | 

    how’s the old joke go? “what’s the difference between surgeons and god?” “god doesn’t think he’s a surgeon.”

    just out of curiosity, doc, whattaya suppose a semi-skilled lawyer could do – in a malpractice trial – whattaya suppose he could do on the stand to a doc who admitted doing major surgery after a 120-hour week? would any juror think that MIGHT be a contributing factor to a case of, say, “you removed the wrong kidney”? or, my personal surgical fave, “the lady went in for a knee operation and you (literally) cut her a new rectum?!?”

    “yep, we docs are smarter than you.”

  30. #30 |  Bronwyn | 

    I know I’m here at End-of-Threadsville, but I’m reading the Innocence Project’s letter of complaint.

    Footnote 15, which notes that Hayne’s CV lists publications he neither authored nor co-authored and presentations he never gave, was incredibly damning in my eyes.

    As a scientist, and a published one at that, this is personally offensive. No medical professional or scientist of conscience would tolerate Hayne’s presence in the same room. This is a very serious breach of scientific ethics and alone should be sufficient grounds to revoke his license.

    And on the long list of Hayne’s ethical breaches, it’s clearly not the most severe.

  31. #31 |  Nick T | 

    Or what if he was doing 1800 surgeries per year? Sure some of them might just be your basic cartiledge removal surgery, but within those 1800 he threw in some double by-passes and a few liver transplants (again I don’t know jack about medicine but this sounds baout right)?

    Then, turns out in s few of those really serious, life-depending-on-it surgeries, we came to find out he not only botched the surgeries but was drawing conclusions about how to proceed out of thin air, and rationalizing his decisons with reasons he concocted from whole clothe. Then he’s profitting directly from selling those dead people’s organs. Whoops! well I’m sure the next 1800 will turn out great.

    To be fair, nom de guerre, a large portion of med mal cases are the same crappy doctors making multiple mistakes, rather than rampant incompetence in the medical community. It should also be noted, though, that the most thorugh research on the system reveals that the med mal legal system *underserves* people who are victimized and over-protects poor doctors, at least from a results standpoint. Ya know, before we run off hating on lawyers.

  32. #32 |  pam | 

    http://www.cdispatch.com/articles/2008/04/10/state_news/state02.txt

    It sounds like Mr. Craig of the State Medical Board of Licensure may have his mind made up.

    Mr. Hayne has been keeping them afloat? What? It was a choice to use him wasn’t it?

  33. #33 |  Tanya | 

    The US Department of Transportation estimates that 100,000 car accidents and 1,500 traffic deaths can be attributed to sleep deprivation. Dawson & Reid (1997) compared the effects of sleep deprivation and alcohol consumption and found that after 17 hours of wakefulness performance on neurocognitive tasks was equal to that of a person with a BAL of .50. After 24 hours of wakefulness, performance was equal to that of a person with a BAL of 1.0. Barger and colleagues (2005), studying medical residents, found that the risk of a car accident doubles following an extended shift. In the state of New Jersey, Maggies Law was enacted in 2003 such that a person involved in a vehicular accident after 24 hours of wakefulnes can be charged with vehicular homicide.

  34. #34 |  Tanya | 

    I am especially happy that Forrest Allgood is coming up as Hayne’s only defender. This should help cook Allgood’s goose in addition to Hayne’s.
    Yes, Allgood is lying. In Tyler Edmonds’ case, there was no problem finding a competent expert to refute Hayne’s whacko testimony (with no prior warning, an expert was located and ready the next day). MS law has very strict guidelines regarding the board one needs to be certified by. I don’t believe Hayne and Allgood BECAUSE they are liars.

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