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	<title>Comments on: Obama vs. Hillary</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Peggy McGilligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-101544</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy McGilligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Clinton tries to deny the rotten job she’s done as a New York Senator, but Hillary defers to the voter on the topic of Reverend Wright. That’s because when Hillary &amp; Bill Clinton founded their own college (in a sanctuary city, she calls an “empowerment zone”), they also combed through 40,000 résumés, all to the left of the Rev. Wright. The faculty sets the tone at any university, and the Clinton’s crème de la crème of the hard-left insured that theirs would be a blatant testimony to radical anti-Americanism and the politics of racial hatred. You say you’ve heard of tenured radicals – but never the University of Bill Clinton? Imagine what a couple of Clintons could do with a state university. Toss in a Vermont Lt. Governor and a few Middle Eastern flight students for good measure. Prepare to be amazed, your education is about to begin: http://theseedsof9-11.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton tries to deny the rotten job she’s done as a New York Senator, but Hillary defers to the voter on the topic of Reverend Wright. That’s because when Hillary &amp; Bill Clinton founded their own college (in a sanctuary city, she calls an “empowerment zone”), they also combed through 40,000 résumés, all to the left of the Rev. Wright. The faculty sets the tone at any university, and the Clinton’s crème de la crème of the hard-left insured that theirs would be a blatant testimony to radical anti-Americanism and the politics of racial hatred. You say you’ve heard of tenured radicals – but never the University of Bill Clinton? Imagine what a couple of Clintons could do with a state university. Toss in a Vermont Lt. Governor and a few Middle Eastern flight students for good measure. Prepare to be amazed, your education is about to begin: <a href="http://theseedsof9-11.com" rel="nofollow">http://theseedsof9-11.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-78637</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Obama finds his own voice in refuting Hillary Clinton&#039;s slippery, insincere, negative and calculated form of campaigning.  I dislike her more than I did to begin with due to her dirty tactics, lies and distortions of what her opponent&#039;s point of view is.  Hillary is a very polarizing figure; her nomination will make it harder for Democrats to win the Presidency and could impact Congressional seats as well.  I hope we can elect a President whose word we can trust and whose character we can actually respect, for a change.  Such a President would be Barak Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Obama finds his own voice in refuting Hillary Clinton&#8217;s slippery, insincere, negative and calculated form of campaigning.  I dislike her more than I did to begin with due to her dirty tactics, lies and distortions of what her opponent&#8217;s point of view is.  Hillary is a very polarizing figure; her nomination will make it harder for Democrats to win the Presidency and could impact Congressional seats as well.  I hope we can elect a President whose word we can trust and whose character we can actually respect, for a change.  Such a President would be Barak Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-78425</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Worth noting that Obama is a Constitutional Law scholar

Oh, great....he&#039;s a freakin&#039; college-graduate.

He knows EVERYTHING now.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Worth noting that Obama is a Constitutional Law scholar</p>
<p>Oh, great&#8230;.he&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; college-graduate.</p>
<p>He knows EVERYTHING now&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-78420</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth noting that Obama is a Constitutional Law scholar: that alone makes me think more of him in the realm of whether or not he&#039;d have a more nuanced, rather than balls-to-the-wall, concept of executive power and citizens rights.

Of course, Cindy McCain might be just as good, what with her own experience abusing prescription drugs, getting busted, and spending ten years in jail, after which she became a passionate advocate for the injustice of sentencing laws.  Oh wait, no. Only the first thing happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth noting that Obama is a Constitutional Law scholar: that alone makes me think more of him in the realm of whether or not he&#8217;d have a more nuanced, rather than balls-to-the-wall, concept of executive power and citizens rights.</p>
<p>Of course, Cindy McCain might be just as good, what with her own experience abusing prescription drugs, getting busted, and spending ten years in jail, after which she became a passionate advocate for the injustice of sentencing laws.  Oh wait, no. Only the first thing happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-2/#comment-78413</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton&#039;s work doesn&#039;t much matter to me (though at one point I idolized the guy).  What matters to me here is the fact that Hillary now disgusts me.  I was previously in favor of either of them, then as I listened to the two and saw Obama&#039;s reserve and thoughtfulness, began to prefer him.  Hillary continues to speak down to the electorate, to become falsely outraged, etc.  It disgusts me.  The presidency is not a game, and I prefer thought and reason to disingenuous soundbites.

At this point I think I&#039;d rather vote for McCain than Hillary.  But it&#039;s really all about the war for me.  It&#039;s not about just constitutional law, it&#039;s about international law as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton&#8217;s work doesn&#8217;t much matter to me (though at one point I idolized the guy).  What matters to me here is the fact that Hillary now disgusts me.  I was previously in favor of either of them, then as I listened to the two and saw Obama&#8217;s reserve and thoughtfulness, began to prefer him.  Hillary continues to speak down to the electorate, to become falsely outraged, etc.  It disgusts me.  The presidency is not a game, and I prefer thought and reason to disingenuous soundbites.</p>
<p>At this point I think I&#8217;d rather vote for McCain than Hillary.  But it&#8217;s really all about the war for me.  It&#8217;s not about just constitutional law, it&#8217;s about international law as well.</p>
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		<title>By: ts</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-78402</link>
		<dc:creator>ts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Really? You like the smell of bigger government? Higher taxes?&quot;

Biggest government spender ever:  Bush II.
Second biggest: Reagan
Third biggest: Bush I

Clinton, for his myriad faults, actually lowered the deficit.

For the last 30 years, the Republicans have been the party of big government, the party of huge government spending.  Sure, they don&#039;t raise taxes because they&#039;re the party of &quot;borrow from your children&quot;, aka &quot;spend deficit money like a drunken sailor.&quot;

If you don&#039;t like big government, vote against the Republicans.  They are, quite literally, the biggest &quot;big government&quot; builders in the history of humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Really? You like the smell of bigger government? Higher taxes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Biggest government spender ever:  Bush II.<br />
Second biggest: Reagan<br />
Third biggest: Bush I</p>
<p>Clinton, for his myriad faults, actually lowered the deficit.</p>
<p>For the last 30 years, the Republicans have been the party of big government, the party of huge government spending.  Sure, they don&#8217;t raise taxes because they&#8217;re the party of &#8220;borrow from your children&#8221;, aka &#8220;spend deficit money like a drunken sailor.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like big government, vote against the Republicans.  They are, quite literally, the biggest &#8220;big government&#8221; builders in the history of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-78340</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary&#039;ous discussion with obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7150u9sfCo

Enjoy,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary&#8217;ous discussion with obama.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7150u9sfCo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7150u9sfCo</a></p>
<p>Enjoy,</p>
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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-78309</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m probably more &quot;bleeding heart libertarian&quot; than most of you, but I recommend you look at Obama&#039;s health care plans/talks, as well.  He is a lot more into talking about free market solutions than Hillary is.  My main hope for him is that he doesn&#039;t seem as bound by any mainstream ideology... he&#039;s at least willing to entertain non-socialist solutions to problems.  He is not AS &quot;old school tax-and-spend&quot; as Hillary.

That said, back in the day, many people said Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had.  Remember that?  He just took Republican ideas and made them his.  Someone else already mentioned welfare reform.  I tend to think the parties are in the midst of a Dixiecrat-style swap when it comes to fiscal prudence.

And as for the growing size and scope of the government, the fact that ANY of you are still fooled into thinking Republicans are better with money than Democrats, is rather remarkable, considering the history of the federal budget in the past 30 years or so.  How the Republicans have managed to keep that meme out there is simply beyond me.  The Democrats are completely inept at talking about economics, I guess.

For that matter, I&#039;ve long said that if ONE Democrat would just embrace real tax reform, a flat tax being my preference, then this country would be on its way to some serious progress.  Sigh.  I&#039;ve written Obama about it, but he hasn&#039;t answered.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably more &#8220;bleeding heart libertarian&#8221; than most of you, but I recommend you look at Obama&#8217;s health care plans/talks, as well.  He is a lot more into talking about free market solutions than Hillary is.  My main hope for him is that he doesn&#8217;t seem as bound by any mainstream ideology&#8230; he&#8217;s at least willing to entertain non-socialist solutions to problems.  He is not AS &#8220;old school tax-and-spend&#8221; as Hillary.</p>
<p>That said, back in the day, many people said Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had.  Remember that?  He just took Republican ideas and made them his.  Someone else already mentioned welfare reform.  I tend to think the parties are in the midst of a Dixiecrat-style swap when it comes to fiscal prudence.</p>
<p>And as for the growing size and scope of the government, the fact that ANY of you are still fooled into thinking Republicans are better with money than Democrats, is rather remarkable, considering the history of the federal budget in the past 30 years or so.  How the Republicans have managed to keep that meme out there is simply beyond me.  The Democrats are completely inept at talking about economics, I guess.</p>
<p>For that matter, I&#8217;ve long said that if ONE Democrat would just embrace real tax reform, a flat tax being my preference, then this country would be on its way to some serious progress.  Sigh.  I&#8217;ve written Obama about it, but he hasn&#8217;t answered.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The first black president will be a republican not a dem.

Walter Williams? Get off your fat can and run....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The first black president will be a republican not a dem.</p>
<p>Walter Williams? Get off your fat can and run&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-78284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore my comments about Quayle.  I had a brain cramp.  Shouldn&#039;t try to post and work at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ignore my comments about Quayle.  I had a brain cramp.  Shouldn&#8217;t try to post and work at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/03/05/obama-vs-hillary/comment-page-1/#comment-78277</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve mentioned this here before, there is a large chunk of southern dems and northern white union members who are not going to vote for Obama solely because he&#039;s black.  They&#039;ll tell pollsters they love him but when it comes time to pull the lever, no way.  Zogby had obama up by 15 in ohio a couple of days before the election, barely ahead in texas, and the exit polls in CA had him leading by a pretty decent margin and he ended up losing them all. When Obama ends up losing we&#039;re going to have to listen to months of commentary about how racists the republicans are because they wouldn&#039;t vote for the Dem candidate because he was black while the registered dems will get a pass. (See the Ford race in TN last year).

The first black president will be a republican not a dem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned this here before, there is a large chunk of southern dems and northern white union members who are not going to vote for Obama solely because he&#8217;s black.  They&#8217;ll tell pollsters they love him but when it comes time to pull the lever, no way.  Zogby had obama up by 15 in ohio a couple of days before the election, barely ahead in texas, and the exit polls in CA had him leading by a pretty decent margin and he ended up losing them all. When Obama ends up losing we&#8217;re going to have to listen to months of commentary about how racists the republicans are because they wouldn&#8217;t vote for the Dem candidate because he was black while the registered dems will get a pass. (See the Ford race in TN last year).</p>
<p>The first black president will be a republican not a dem.</p>
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		<title>By: mtc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nothing makes republicans in congress actually act like republicans like a pinko in the White House.&quot;

I think Ochressandro has a very good point here.  From a libertarian perspective, Obama in the White House with a Republican controlled Congress could work out pretty well.  Whereas neither a Republican nor Democratic Congress would do much to check Clinton or McCain in their lust for foreign adventures and the expansion of executive power, I could see a Republican Congress giving Obama a lot of trouble with his more odious domestic measures.  Even if the Republicans took back either the House or the Senate it might be enough.   But I guess this is probably a moot point after all,  you don&#039;t hear a lot about how the Congressional balance is shaping up this early in the election cycle, but I&#039;d bet it isn&#039;t good for Republicans.  And of course if Obama sweeps in decisively, there will probably be a coattail effect for the Dems in Congress.


But there&#039;s always 2010 and the prospect of a six year stalemate...Hell, that&#039;s already happened once in my young life.  Not that Bill in the White House and Newt controlling Congress is exactly my vision of libertopia, but it doesn&#039;t seem so bad compared to what we could wind up with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nothing makes republicans in congress actually act like republicans like a pinko in the White House.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Ochressandro has a very good point here.  From a libertarian perspective, Obama in the White House with a Republican controlled Congress could work out pretty well.  Whereas neither a Republican nor Democratic Congress would do much to check Clinton or McCain in their lust for foreign adventures and the expansion of executive power, I could see a Republican Congress giving Obama a lot of trouble with his more odious domestic measures.  Even if the Republicans took back either the House or the Senate it might be enough.   But I guess this is probably a moot point after all,  you don&#8217;t hear a lot about how the Congressional balance is shaping up this early in the election cycle, but I&#8217;d bet it isn&#8217;t good for Republicans.  And of course if Obama sweeps in decisively, there will probably be a coattail effect for the Dems in Congress.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s always 2010 and the prospect of a six year stalemate&#8230;Hell, that&#8217;s already happened once in my young life.  Not that Bill in the White House and Newt controlling Congress is exactly my vision of libertopia, but it doesn&#8217;t seem so bad compared to what we could wind up with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikestermike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikestermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Collins-

Huh? Is this a lame try at a tired 90s Quayle joke? Quayle was VP UNDER Bush, not &quot;instead of&quot;. 

To prevent further pedo-oral juxtapositions, I recommend at least a cursory glance at Wikipedia, Encarta, or your local library&#039;s World Book Encyclopedia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Collins-</p>
<p>Huh? Is this a lame try at a tired 90s Quayle joke? Quayle was VP UNDER Bush, not &#8220;instead of&#8221;. </p>
<p>To prevent further pedo-oral juxtapositions, I recommend at least a cursory glance at Wikipedia, Encarta, or your local library&#8217;s World Book Encyclopedia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; And the war in Iraq is not as important to me as I think it is to
&gt; Radley or most of his readers.

One thing Democrats are going to find out is that it&#039;s not that important to most voters either, and certainly less than it was in the last election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; And the war in Iraq is not as important to me as I think it is to<br />
&gt; Radley or most of his readers.</p>
<p>One thing Democrats are going to find out is that it&#8217;s not that important to most voters either, and certainly less than it was in the last election.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I changed my voter registration to Democrat for this primary election just so that I could vote for Hiliary.  I figure she&#039;s more beatable than Obama and I can still vote for McCain in November.  I&#039;ll change it back next year.

By the way Kukulkan GHW Bush was only VP for 4 years.  Quayle was the first term VP under Reagan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I changed my voter registration to Democrat for this primary election just so that I could vote for Hiliary.  I figure she&#8217;s more beatable than Obama and I can still vote for McCain in November.  I&#8217;ll change it back next year.</p>
<p>By the way Kukulkan GHW Bush was only VP for 4 years.  Quayle was the first term VP under Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kwix - True that. We&#039;re taking our chances with all these candidates,  but Salvo does have some very good pro-Obama points.

I gotta say, other than Obama being anti-war, there&#039;s really not very much to distinguish these three from each other. And the war in Iraq is not as important to me as I think it is to Radley or most of his readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kwix &#8211; True that. We&#8217;re taking our chances with all these candidates,  but Salvo does have some very good pro-Obama points.</p>
<p>I gotta say, other than Obama being anti-war, there&#8217;s really not very much to distinguish these three from each other. And the war in Iraq is not as important to me as I think it is to Radley or most of his readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; 2)One of the things I’ve seen in some of Obama’s stump speeches
&gt; is a line about how we’re incarcerating at a faster level than ever
&gt; before and we need to stop. If that’s not a threat towards the
&gt; drug war, I don’t know what is.

What it &quot;is&quot;, so far, is a politician moving his lips.

-- Now if he were to stop being such a chickenliver and actually *talk* about the WosD, he&#039;d be more than just another socialist politician selling himself as the 2nd (or 3rd or 27th or....) Coming of JFK or MLK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; 2)One of the things I’ve seen in some of Obama’s stump speeches<br />
&gt; is a line about how we’re incarcerating at a faster level than ever<br />
&gt; before and we need to stop. If that’s not a threat towards the<br />
&gt; drug war, I don’t know what is.</p>
<p>What it &#8220;is&#8221;, so far, is a politician moving his lips.</p>
<p>&#8211; Now if he were to stop being such a chickenliver and actually *talk* about the WosD, he&#8217;d be more than just another socialist politician selling himself as the 2nd (or 3rd or 27th or&#8230;.) Coming of JFK or MLK.</p>
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		<title>By: Salvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure it is wishful thinking. Here&#039;s why:

1)Con law professor. My con law  professor once had us watch a random episode of &#039;Cops&#039;; then we were to write what the civil rights abuses we had seen were. Speaking from experience, most con law professors share Radley&#039;s opinion that the pendulum has swung way too far towards authoritarianism. Most worship the Bill of Rights; that&#039;s how they ended up teaching that subject in the first place.

2)One of the things I&#039;ve seen in some of Obama&#039;s stump speeches is a line about how we&#039;re incarcerating at a faster level than ever before and we need to stop. If that&#039;s not a threat towards the drug war, I don&#039;t know what is.

3)He was a community organizer in South Side Chicago, where a lot of victims of the drug war come from. Obama has seen the casualties with his own eyes, from the perspective of those most affected. That&#039;s going to play into his decisions.

4)I&#039;d point out that the one of the biggest expansions of the war on drugs happened during the Reagan and Clinton years. You think Reganite McCain or Hillary are going to help reverse that trend?

Yeah, right. I&#039;ll put my money on the black guy from Chicago who&#039;s knows the 4th Amendment, knows what habeas corpus actually is, and has seen first hand what the drug war does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure it is wishful thinking. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>1)Con law professor. My con law  professor once had us watch a random episode of &#8216;Cops&#8217;; then we were to write what the civil rights abuses we had seen were. Speaking from experience, most con law professors share Radley&#8217;s opinion that the pendulum has swung way too far towards authoritarianism. Most worship the Bill of Rights; that&#8217;s how they ended up teaching that subject in the first place.</p>
<p>2)One of the things I&#8217;ve seen in some of Obama&#8217;s stump speeches is a line about how we&#8217;re incarcerating at a faster level than ever before and we need to stop. If that&#8217;s not a threat towards the drug war, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>3)He was a community organizer in South Side Chicago, where a lot of victims of the drug war come from. Obama has seen the casualties with his own eyes, from the perspective of those most affected. That&#8217;s going to play into his decisions.</p>
<p>4)I&#8217;d point out that the one of the biggest expansions of the war on drugs happened during the Reagan and Clinton years. You think Reganite McCain or Hillary are going to help reverse that trend?</p>
<p>Yeah, right. I&#8217;ll put my money on the black guy from Chicago who&#8217;s knows the 4th Amendment, knows what habeas corpus actually is, and has seen first hand what the drug war does.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Moore,
Or she could do something &quot;big and history making&quot; like Medicare Part D.  Just an example.</description>
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Or she could do something &#8220;big and history making&#8221; like Medicare Part D.  Just an example.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nom - Yes, it is wishful thinking. She&#039;ll for sure do something big and history making (like welfare reform), that was just the first example I thought up.

One reason Radley supports Obama is because he thinks, with very little evidence, that he might be the least hardcore drug warrior of the bunch. That&#039;s also wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nom &#8211; Yes, it is wishful thinking. She&#8217;ll for sure do something big and history making (like welfare reform), that was just the first example I thought up.</p>
<p>One reason Radley supports Obama is because he thinks, with very little evidence, that he might be the least hardcore drug warrior of the bunch. That&#8217;s also wishful thinking.</p>
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