Comments on: The Exonerations Continue http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:59:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: AlienBrat http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-147517 AlienBrat Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:05:37 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-147517 It's not just prosecutors. They go by information they are given by investigating officers, be they beat cops or feds. NEVER, EVER speak to law enforcement without your attorney and NEVER let them into your home without a warrant. they are NOT your friends, they are you worst nightmare...because laws that apply to you do NOT apply to them. It’s not just prosecutors. They go by information they are given by investigating officers, be they beat cops or feds.

NEVER, EVER speak to law enforcement without your attorney and NEVER let them into your home without a warrant.

they are NOT your friends, they are you worst nightmare…because laws that apply to you do NOT apply to them.

]]> By: Vain and irresponsible « Entitled to an Opinion http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-76314 Vain and irresponsible « Entitled to an Opinion Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:38:09 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-76314 [...] people. I said “If you think that case is unique, you haven’t been reading enough Radley Balko.“ [...] [...] people. I said “If you think that case is unique, you haven’t been reading enough Radley Balko.“ [...]

]]> By: rustbelt http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-76004 rustbelt Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:04:12 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-76004 The county prosecutor (Dunnings) has been a really stand-up guy for years, not prone to over-charging and has made some high-profile dismissals over the years when a lot of other prosecutors would have "left it up to the jury", so this really seems out of character (I live near Lansing). I am interested in finding out what the prosecuting attorney and the detective were up to. The county prosecutor (Dunnings) has been a really stand-up guy for years, not prone to over-charging and has made some high-profile dismissals over the years when a lot of other prosecutors would have “left it up to the jury”, so this really seems out of character (I live near Lansing). I am interested in finding out what the prosecuting attorney and the detective were up to.

]]> By: Chris http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75694 Chris Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:23:13 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75694 All, A prosecutor's motivation is to get convictions not to enforce the law or seek only guilty people. I realize many will argue against this viewpoint, yet it is accurate. A prosecutor looks at evidence provided to them and says can I get a conviction, not is this person innocent or guilty. Now in some cases, prosecutors go a step farther and say, if I can't get a conviction with what is here now, how could I get a conviction. These prosecutors are the ones that start to buy perjury, hide evidence, create false evidence, etc.; because in their warped opinion, a conviction serves the greater good. Take a look at the case of Dr. Bernard L. Rottschaefer which Radley has covered. US Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan appears to fall into this second tier of unscrupulous prosecutors. All,

A prosecutor’s motivation is to get convictions not to enforce the law or seek only guilty people. I realize many will argue against this viewpoint, yet it is accurate.

A prosecutor looks at evidence provided to them and says can I get a conviction, not is this person innocent or guilty.

Now in some cases, prosecutors go a step farther and say, if I can’t get a conviction with what is here now, how could I get a conviction.

These prosecutors are the ones that start to buy perjury, hide evidence, create false evidence, etc.; because in their warped opinion, a conviction serves the greater good.

Take a look at the case of Dr. Bernard L. Rottschaefer which Radley has covered. US Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan appears to fall into this second tier of unscrupulous prosecutors.

]]> By: Frank http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75649 Frank Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:14:33 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75649 To keep the populace under control, it isn't necessary to put the guilty in prison so long as SOMEONE gets put in prison, guilty or not. Unfortunately, it's working. The populace is well and truly cowed. If they weren't it would be torch and pitchfork time at police HQ and the persecutor's office. To keep the populace under control, it isn’t necessary to put the guilty in prison so long as SOMEONE gets put in prison, guilty or not.

Unfortunately, it’s working. The populace is well and truly cowed. If they weren’t it would be torch and pitchfork time at police HQ and the persecutor’s office.

]]> By: B. West http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75636 B. West Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:52:37 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75636 How do these people live with themselves when they KNOW they are sending an innocent person to prison? What do they tell themselves that makes it alright in their minds and allows them to sleep at night? How do they look at themselves in the mirror every morning? How do they even look at their families, their children? The moral bankruptcy of these people is just staggering and very terrifying to me. How do these people live with themselves when they KNOW they are sending an innocent person to prison? What do they tell themselves that makes it alright in their minds and allows them to sleep at night? How do they look at themselves in the mirror every morning? How do they even look at their families, their children? The moral bankruptcy of these people is just staggering and very terrifying to me.

]]> By: crack http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75608 crack Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:21 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75608 Maybe Patterico could comment on this case? Maybe Patterico could comment on this case?

]]> By: Mike Schneider http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75594 Mike Schneider Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:03:35 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75594 > Hopefully the investigators and prosecutors responsible for this > fraud perpetrated on the courts will be tried, justly convicted and > serve jail time. Why? So you and me can be soaked to keep 'em in a zoo for the rest of their lives? "Hopefully..." they will be gunned down in the street, as Justice demands. > Hopefully the investigators and prosecutors responsible for this
> fraud perpetrated on the courts will be tried, justly convicted and
> serve jail time.

Why? So you and me can be soaked to keep ‘em in a zoo for the rest of their lives?

“Hopefully…” they will be gunned down in the street, as Justice demands.

]]> By: Whim http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75593 Whim Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:58:58 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75593 Even for serious police or prosecutorial misconduct, any adverse consequences or punishment for those directly involved are extremely rare. However, the taxpayers do get repeatedly seriously financially punished with settlement of the civil suits against the government body by the harmed individuals. Even for serious police or prosecutorial misconduct, any adverse consequences or punishment for those directly involved are extremely rare.

However, the taxpayers do get repeatedly seriously financially punished with settlement of the civil suits against the government body by the harmed individuals.

]]> By: BladeDoc http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75589 BladeDoc Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:20:37 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75589 Does anyone know a prosecutor to whom the question can be asked? Seriously, what's the motivation? Does anyone know a prosecutor to whom the question can be asked? Seriously, what’s the motivation?

]]> By: PJ Doland http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75576 PJ Doland Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:19:33 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75576 I wonder if this kind of thing happens as often in countries with inquisitorial justice systems? I wonder if this kind of thing happens as often in countries with inquisitorial justice systems?

]]> By: Matt Moore http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75573 Matt Moore Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:06:07 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75573 This is the other side of the coin, re: your last post. Sometimes the role of the defense attorney <i>is</i> to keep an innocent man out of prison, and sometimes they fail. This is the other side of the coin, re: your last post. Sometimes the role of the defense attorney is to keep an innocent man out of prison, and sometimes they fail.

]]> By: Sam http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75572 Sam Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:58:06 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75572 "Evidence surfaces showing that prosecutors got the wrong guy, but because they’ve already started the trial, they go ahead and convict him anyway?" This should be a crime.... “Evidence surfaces showing that prosecutors got the wrong guy, but because they’ve already started the trial, they go ahead and convict him anyway?”

This should be a crime….

]]> By: Chris http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75570 Chris Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:00 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75570 Radley, You really ask such questions after covering the case against Dr. Bernard L. Rottschaefer. Radley,

You really ask such questions after covering the case against Dr. Bernard L. Rottschaefer.

]]> By: Randy http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75567 Randy Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:12:29 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/19/the-exonerations-continue/#comment-75567 The sound you heard was my jaw hitting the table, again.... At first I thought this was another Mississippi story, but this happened in Michigan. One thing is true about the justice system in the USA these days, it is a system alright. Hopefully the investigators and prosecutors responsible for this fraud perpetrated on the courts will be tried, justly convicted and serve jail time. The sound you heard was my jaw hitting the table, again….

At first I thought this was another Mississippi story, but this happened in Michigan.

One thing is true about the justice system in the USA these days, it is a system alright.

Hopefully the investigators and prosecutors responsible for this fraud perpetrated on the courts will be tried, justly convicted and serve jail time.

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