<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bush in Africa</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/</link>
	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75588</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75588</guid>
		<description>I'm in agreement with you that we need to end domestic farm subsidies. But to the issue of trying to help Africa by throwing money its way is simply not going to fix anything. Until the people of Africa end their tribalistic ways nothing will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in agreement with you that we need to end domestic farm subsidies. But to the issue of trying to help Africa by throwing money its way is simply not going to fix anything. Until the people of Africa end their tribalistic ways nothing will change.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pat Lynch</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75528</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75528</guid>
		<description>Mr. Balko - I think you've really nailed this farming problem.  You  really seem to have a grasp on farming in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Balko - I think you&#8217;ve really nailed this farming problem.  You  really seem to have a grasp on farming in general.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75526</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75526</guid>
		<description>Michael, the political obstacle to free trade zones comes down to who loses out. Markets allocate resources to the most efficient producer of the products people want. There's no fat left over to fund bribes, buy votes and all of the other ways that political power is reinforced. 

Political power, whether through tariffs and subsidies or government contracts, is under the direct control of politicians who can therefore make decisions that reinforce their wealth and power at the expense of market efficiency. This power can then be directed to securing the votes and the contributions of powerful minorities (farmers, corporations etc.) at the expense of a larger but less focussed majority.

Given how hard it is to keep politics out of markets in a highly educated and pluralist country like the US imagine how hard it is in countries where education is limited and tribal connections often trump national cohesion.

A free market in Africa would be great for everyone except the people who retain power and wealth by directing patronage to their supporters and sponsors. Unfortunately they're the ones in control.

As for how we solve that, I'm not sure we can. The key benefit of dismantling our own trade barriers, though, is to ourselves. We get cheaper stuff and get to watch poorer areas of the world develop to a stage where their brightest and best can contribute in meaningful ways (and to a stage where the people can really demand change from their leadership as is starting to happen in China as a result of the same forces).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, the political obstacle to free trade zones comes down to who loses out. Markets allocate resources to the most efficient producer of the products people want. There&#8217;s no fat left over to fund bribes, buy votes and all of the other ways that political power is reinforced. </p>
<p>Political power, whether through tariffs and subsidies or government contracts, is under the direct control of politicians who can therefore make decisions that reinforce their wealth and power at the expense of market efficiency. This power can then be directed to securing the votes and the contributions of powerful minorities (farmers, corporations etc.) at the expense of a larger but less focussed majority.</p>
<p>Given how hard it is to keep politics out of markets in a highly educated and pluralist country like the US imagine how hard it is in countries where education is limited and tribal connections often trump national cohesion.</p>
<p>A free market in Africa would be great for everyone except the people who retain power and wealth by directing patronage to their supporters and sponsors. Unfortunately they&#8217;re the ones in control.</p>
<p>As for how we solve that, I&#8217;m not sure we can. The key benefit of dismantling our own trade barriers, though, is to ourselves. We get cheaper stuff and get to watch poorer areas of the world develop to a stage where their brightest and best can contribute in meaningful ways (and to a stage where the people can really demand change from their leadership as is starting to happen in China as a result of the same forces).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Edintally</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75417</link>
		<dc:creator>Edintally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75417</guid>
		<description>Social welfare vs. Corporate welfare

I think people subconsciously shrug their collective shoulders when it comes to fighting corporate welfare.  Fighting against money and power is much more difficult than fighting against the disenfranchised.  Individually, I think we can all see the inequality in the system, but turning that into popular policy is like climbing a vertical cliff face.  It can be done, but damn its hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social welfare vs. Corporate welfare</p>
<p>I think people subconsciously shrug their collective shoulders when it comes to fighting corporate welfare.  Fighting against money and power is much more difficult than fighting against the disenfranchised.  Individually, I think we can all see the inequality in the system, but turning that into popular policy is like climbing a vertical cliff face.  It can be done, but damn its hard.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ochressandro</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75413</link>
		<dc:creator>Ochressandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75413</guid>
		<description>And that's leaving aside the fact that taking tax money from ordinary Americans and handing it to anyone as a production subsidy is just flat out immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s leaving aside the fact that taking tax money from ordinary Americans and handing it to anyone as a production subsidy is just flat out immoral.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dan in michigan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75412</link>
		<dc:creator>dan in michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75412</guid>
		<description>Africa's best natural resource is sunlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Africa&#8217;s best natural resource is sunlight.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75379</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75379</guid>
		<description>Americans are not loathed in Africa - but Bush is.  Tanzania has many Muslims, especially on the coast and islands, they do not speak nicely of him.  I would bet many of those who greeted the president were paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans are not loathed in Africa - but Bush is.  Tanzania has many Muslims, especially on the coast and islands, they do not speak nicely of him.  I would bet many of those who greeted the president were paid.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75375</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/18/bush-in-africa/#comment-75375</guid>
		<description>Radley,I agree with you on trade,we need to end subsidies and buy where it is cheaper.The problem I have is Africa is a vast area with many countries.They could easily create a free trade zone on the continent yet won't.They don't trade with one and other.With the amount of human and natural resources there you would think it would be a power house economy.What's stopping them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,I agree with you on trade,we need to end subsidies and buy where it is cheaper.The problem I have is Africa is a vast area with many countries.They could easily create a free trade zone on the continent yet won&#8217;t.They don&#8217;t trade with one and other.With the amount of human and natural resources there you would think it would be a power house economy.What&#8217;s stopping them?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
