Comments on: Respect His Authori-tah http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:10:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Police Accountability Is A Good Thing http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79793 Police Accountability Is A Good Thing Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:24:22 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79793 [...] Techdirt’s traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...] [...] Techdirt’s traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...]

]]> By: RateMyCop: Invasion of Privacy or Expression of Free Speech? | Social Media News Desk http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79142 RateMyCop: Invasion of Privacy or Expression of Free Speech? | Social Media News Desk Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:16:59 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79142 [...] Timothy Lee notes, “When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or [...] [...] Timothy Lee notes, “When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or [...]

]]> By: RateMyCop: Invasion of Privacy or Expression of Free Speech? http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79121 RateMyCop: Invasion of Privacy or Expression of Free Speech? Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:41:44 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-79121 [...] Timothy Lee notes, “When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or [...] [...] Timothy Lee notes, “When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or [...]

]]> By: Police Accountability Is A Good Thing - BuzzYA! http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-78975 Police Accountability Is A Good Thing - BuzzYA! Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:12 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-78975 [...] hurt Techdirt's traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...] [...] hurt Techdirt’s traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...]

]]> By: Police Accountability Is A Good Thing | bitbucket.kylewelsh.com http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-78974 Police Accountability Is A Good Thing | bitbucket.kylewelsh.com Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:32:54 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-78974 [...] hurt Techdirt's traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...] [...] hurt Techdirt’s traffic. When a police officer screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, [...]

]]> By: Kevin http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74948 Kevin Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:17:18 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74948 I'm 39, a PhD and successful in my career. I own and fly a plane. I also occasionally ride my skateboard (with limited success). I hereby promise and pledge to try really hard never to beat anyone (including my own fat ass) to death with it. Am I still trash? Oh - and does ANY generation ever NOT criticize the teenagers of the next generation? It seems that as we get older, our broad minds and our narrow waists start to change places - and before we know it, it's all "ooooh, the youth of today - pass the Geritol". Whatever the provocation, this dumbass cop used excessive force on some young kids who were guilty of being punk teenagers. He also exercised poor judgment being suckered into the situation in the first place, and failing to consider how he would be able to exit the situation with his dignity (and that of his badge) intact. So yes - in some professions, displaying poor judgment is punishable by any means up to and including death (pilot, deep sea diver, mountain climber etc.). This cop's stupidity tax came due. I’m 39, a PhD and successful in my career. I own and fly a plane. I also occasionally ride my skateboard (with limited success). I hereby promise and pledge to try really hard never to beat anyone (including my own fat ass) to death with it.

Am I still trash?

Oh - and does ANY generation ever NOT criticize the teenagers of the next generation? It seems that as we get older, our broad minds and our narrow waists start to change places - and before we know it, it’s all “ooooh, the youth of today - pass the Geritol”.

Whatever the provocation, this dumbass cop used excessive force on some young kids who were guilty of being punk teenagers. He also exercised poor judgment being suckered into the situation in the first place, and failing to consider how he would be able to exit the situation with his dignity (and that of his badge) intact.

So yes - in some professions, displaying poor judgment is punishable by any means up to and including death (pilot, deep sea diver, mountain climber etc.). This cop’s stupidity tax came due.

]]> By: Stormy Dragon http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74943 Stormy Dragon Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:10:04 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74943 The other two stories both appear to involve cases where someone attacked a skateboarder (and much older ones, btw) and then got their asses handed to them. Maybe redeux, like officer Riveri, enjoys beating up kids and hates skateboarders because they actually fight back from time to time. The other two stories both appear to involve cases where someone attacked a skateboarder (and much older ones, btw) and then got their asses handed to them. Maybe redeux, like officer Riveri, enjoys beating up kids and hates skateboarders because they actually fight back from time to time.

]]> By: Stormy Dragon http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74942 Stormy Dragon Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:59:17 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74942 Okay, I'll give you that one, redeux: had officer Riveri ecounterd these boys in the act of breaking into someone's trailer with the intent of beating them to death with a skateboard in order to steal their car, putting them in a headlock would have been justified. However, can you see that perhaps there is a criminological difference between that and calling a police officer "dude"? Okay, I’ll give you that one, redeux: had officer Riveri ecounterd these boys in the act of breaking into someone’s trailer with the intent of beating them to death with a skateboard in order to steal their car, putting them in a headlock would have been justified.

However, can you see that perhaps there is a criminological difference between that and calling a police officer “dude”?

]]> By: ruggbutt http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74935 ruggbutt Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:01:25 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74935 This guy taints the rest of the cops on his department with his behavior. That being said I can understand his hostility. Look at his cute little spandex uniform and the golf cart he's forced to drive. Other officers in his department are driving a Crown Vic with the light bar on the top or the undercover car with the lights in the grille. They issue a car that belongs in the Castro District in San Fran to this guy and they force him to wear clothes that make him look like a yellow sausage. With his temper tantrum on top of all that (ex) Officer Riviera should be nominated for Douche of the Year. This guy taints the rest of the cops on his department with his behavior. That being said I can understand his hostility. Look at his cute little spandex uniform and the golf cart he’s forced to drive. Other officers in his department are driving a Crown Vic with the light bar on the top or the undercover car with the lights in the grille. They issue a car that belongs in the Castro District in San Fran to this guy and they force him to wear clothes that make him look like a yellow sausage. With his temper tantrum on top of all that (ex) Officer Riviera should be nominated for Douche of the Year.

]]> By: MassHole http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74921 MassHole Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:33:07 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74921 Redux, You are a moron and a scared little man. Not a pretty combo. "Skateboard Attacks" You're nuts dude. Maybe you should mind your own business and those nasty, mean skateboarders will leave you alone and not embarass you in front of the "older folk". Did you shake your cane at them? Redux,

You are a moron and a scared little man. Not a pretty combo.

“Skateboard Attacks” You’re nuts dude.

Maybe you should mind your own business and those nasty, mean skateboarders will leave you alone and not embarass you in front of the “older folk”.

Did you shake your cane at them?

]]> By: Lee http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74856 Lee Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:32:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74856 I've always wondered how much neighborh shuns the cop that lives in their neighborhood. I doubt very highly the cop acts differently to friends, family, and community. If so, that indicates a Jekyll and Hyde personality, which is close to the same as a split personality. Cops like this need to have their ass kicked, but most of them are too much of a pussy to put their fists where their mouth is. Hide behind the skirt of the corrupt system and their corrupt supervisors. I’ve always wondered how much neighborh shuns the cop that lives in their neighborhood. I doubt very highly the cop acts differently to friends, family, and community. If so, that indicates a Jekyll and Hyde personality, which is close to the same as a split personality.

Cops like this need to have their ass kicked, but most of them are too much of a pussy to put their fists where their mouth is. Hide behind the skirt of the corrupt system and their corrupt supervisors.

]]> By: Les http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74834 Les Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:05:29 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74834 Okay, so you've had bad experiences with skateboarders, so now you've decided that ALL skateboarders are "trash." Can you understand how silly and bigoted that is? What do you know about the kids in the video? Are they "trash?" Do they deserve to be assaulted just because they're skateboarding where it's not allowed? Try to remember that the kids in the video are NOT the skateboarders in your neighborhood. They're skinny, little 14 year old kids. What do you know about THESE kids and why do they deserve to be assaulted? Okay, so you’ve had bad experiences with skateboarders, so now you’ve decided that ALL skateboarders are “trash.” Can you understand how silly and bigoted that is?

What do you know about the kids in the video? Are they “trash?” Do they deserve to be assaulted just because they’re skateboarding where it’s not allowed? Try to remember that the kids in the video are NOT the skateboarders in your neighborhood. They’re skinny, little 14 year old kids.

What do you know about THESE kids and why do they deserve to be assaulted?

]]> By: redeux http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74818 redeux Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:13:23 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74818 i love how you try to determine what i think or assign meanings that are not evidenced... skateboarders are trash , everyone of them i've met tries to act like a badass with everyone they meet ... owh , yessa man i'm soooo bad , you look me wrong i hurt you ass ... etc etc ... (esl maybe ?) had one earlier today who remembered me from when he had previously threatened me in front of a crowd of older folks and tried to assault me for telling him the area was posted no skateboarding ... he was going to turn around and come back but when he saw i recognised him he bailed... cowards and troublemakers everyone... i have watched them threaten numerous people who didn't like almost being run down by them... and our city wonders why downtown business's are closing up and moving elsewhere ? between the homeless , the skatetrash, the 51-50's/647m's and other lowlifes our downtown area is going in the crapper at a recoed rate... no one wants to shop where all the freaks and scum hang out... but try telling that to a chitty council with a libtard majority ... any of them will do anything they think they can get away with... Why do you assume that these kids are the kind of kids who would attack someone with their skateboard? What percentage of teen skateboard riders do you believe have or will attack someone with their skateboard? Why do you believe that police officers attacking non-violent skateboarders will result in fewer skateboard attacks? i love how you try to determine what i think or assign meanings that are not evidenced…
skateboarders are trash , everyone of them i’ve met tries to act like a badass with everyone they meet …
owh , yessa man i’m soooo bad , you look me wrong i hurt you ass … etc etc …
(esl maybe ?)
had one earlier today who remembered me from when he had previously threatened me in front of a crowd of older folks and tried to assault me for telling him the area was posted no skateboarding …
he was going to turn around and come back but when he saw i recognised him he bailed…
cowards and troublemakers everyone…
i have watched them threaten numerous people who didn’t like almost being run down by them…
and our city wonders why downtown business’s are closing up and moving elsewhere ?
between the homeless , the skatetrash, the 51-50’s/647m’s and other lowlifes our downtown area is going in the crapper at a recoed rate…
no one wants to shop where all the freaks and scum hang out…
but try telling that to a chitty council with a libtard majority …

any of them will do anything they think they can get away with…

Why do you assume that these kids are the kind of kids who would attack someone with their skateboard?

What percentage of teen skateboard riders do you believe have or will attack someone with their skateboard?

Why do you believe that police officers attacking non-violent skateboarders will result in fewer skateboard attacks?

]]> By: Les http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74815 Les Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:40:14 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74815 redeux, Why do you assume that these kids are the kind of kids who would attack someone with their skateboard? What percentage of teen skateboard riders do you believe have or will attack someone with their skateboard? Why do you believe that police officers attacking non-violent skateboarders will result in fewer skateboard attacks? redeux,

Why do you assume that these kids are the kind of kids who would attack someone with their skateboard?

What percentage of teen skateboard riders do you believe have or will attack someone with their skateboard?

Why do you believe that police officers attacking non-violent skateboarders will result in fewer skateboard attacks?

]]> By: redeux http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74811 redeux Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:04:46 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74811 Posts: 8,250 Rep Power: 46Euripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to behold Adult crimes, Adult time http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/4251083/detail.html Teen Accused Of Killing 87-Year-Old With Skateboard POSTED: 11:12 am PST March 3, 2005 SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. -- A 13-year-old boy has been arrested, accused of using a skateboard to beat to death an elderly man. Police officers entered Gerald O'Malley's mobile home Monday night to find out why his 1995 Ford Explorer was abandoned and found the body of the 87-year-old man in the living room. Early Tuesday, officers arrested the 13-year-old, who was booked for investigation of murder. His 12-year-old friend, who was booked for investigation of auto theft, was accused of stealing the man's vehicle. Coroner Detective Rick Neufeld said blunt-force trauma to the head killed O'Malley. Police said they found a skateboard at the 13-year-old's San Luis Obispo home and tests will determine whether it was the murder weapon. Posts: 8,250
Rep Power: 46Euripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to beholdEuripus is a splendid one to behold

Adult crimes, Adult time
http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/4251083/detail.html

Teen Accused Of Killing 87-Year-Old With Skateboard

POSTED: 11:12 am PST March 3, 2005

SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. — A 13-year-old boy has been arrested, accused of using a skateboard to beat to death an elderly man.

Police officers entered Gerald O’Malley’s mobile home Monday night to find out why his 1995 Ford Explorer was abandoned and found the body of the 87-year-old man in the living room.

Early Tuesday, officers arrested the 13-year-old, who was booked for investigation of murder. His 12-year-old friend, who was booked for investigation of auto theft, was accused of stealing the man’s vehicle.

Coroner Detective Rick Neufeld said blunt-force trauma to the head killed O’Malley. Police said they found a skateboard at the 13-year-old’s San Luis Obispo home and tests will determine whether it was the murder weapon.

]]> By: redeux http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74810 redeux Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:56:48 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74810 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/66869_skate17ww.shtml http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/31/MNGRFJ5AIN5.DTL http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/66869_skate17ww.shtml

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/31/MNGRFJ5AIN5.DTL

]]> By: Anonymous For Paul http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74803 Anonymous For Paul Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:45:52 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74803 "Can you provide one example from anywhere in country of someone ever having been beat to death with a skateboard by a pre-teen?" HAHAHAHAHA!!! “Can you provide one example from anywhere in country of someone ever having been beat to death with a skateboard by a pre-teen?”

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

]]> By: redeux http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74797 redeux Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:16:44 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74797 i'm not intimidated by them in the least , they are the human equvilent of a thinking turd ... its the people who they threaten every day that have no clue how to deal with them that worry me... as for people beople being killed with boards , well , google is your friend... i got almost 250,000 returns on skateboard murders... we've had several pukes go away for aicm , adw , aitcgbh , and even a 187 a few years ago... all from using skateboards... redeux, What Stormy Dragon said. I understand that you’re frightened of rowdy teenagers... i’m not intimidated by them in the least , they are the human equvilent of a thinking turd …
its the people who they threaten every day that have no clue how to deal with them that worry me…
as for people beople being killed with boards , well , google is your friend…
i got almost 250,000 returns on skateboard murders…
we’ve had several pukes go away for aicm , adw , aitcgbh , and even a 187 a few years ago…
all from using skateboards…

redeux,

What Stormy Dragon said. I understand that you’re frightened of rowdy teenagers…

]]> By: David Chesler http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74795 David Chesler Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:15:54 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74795 <i>Paul Blair, head of the police union, had not seen the video but cautioned that videos show only a slice of a story. He noted that it is impossible to know what happened before or after the camera was turned on.</i> It's fairly easy to know what happened after the camera was turned on, because it's on the video. If he meant to say "After it was turned off" he is right but that's not relevant, unless the dude was some sort of psychic who was assaulting the kids because of what they were going to do. I would be interested to hear his version of a story of which this is a slice that justifies the dude's actions. Paul Blair, head of the police union, had not seen the video but cautioned that videos show only a slice of a story. He noted that it is impossible to know what happened before or after the camera was turned on.

It’s fairly easy to know what happened after the camera was turned on, because it’s on the video.
If he meant to say “After it was turned off” he is right but that’s not relevant, unless the dude was some sort of psychic who was assaulting the kids because of what they were going to do.

I would be interested to hear his version of a story of which this is a slice that justifies the dude’s actions.

]]> By: Moriarty http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74791 Moriarty Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:33:27 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/respect-his-authori-tah/#comment-74791 "Do we judge a doctor’s 40 year career by their worst five moments? " I am a physician. If those "five moments" lead to a bad outcome for a patient, you can bet I will be judged -- in the presence of a jury, and rightfully so. I'm held to an exceedingly high standard by virtue of my professional authority and responsibility. Apparently, a man vested by the state with the ability to wield summary deadly force is not. "Do we take the doctor’s pension away? This is rare." What pension would that be? Unlike a peace officer, I don't have one. “Do we judge a doctor’s 40 year career by their worst five moments? ”

I am a physician. If those “five moments” lead to a bad outcome for a patient, you can bet I will be judged — in the presence of a jury, and rightfully so. I’m held to an exceedingly high standard by virtue of my professional authority and responsibility. Apparently, a man vested by the state with the ability to wield summary deadly force is not.

“Do we take the doctor’s pension away? This is rare.”

What pension would that be? Unlike a peace officer, I don’t have one.

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