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		<title>By: Libertarians for Obama &#187; Libertarian support for Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarians for Obama &#187; Libertarian support for Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #5: &#8220;[O]f the three people who realistically still have a shot at the White House, he’s the only one I agree with on even a fraction of issues. He’s made some real noise about criminal justice reform, is at least amenable to reforming the drug laws. And though I have some fundamental disagreements with him on the proper role of government, he isn’t a bullshit artist, and seems genuinely amenable to new ideas. He isn’t wed to ideology. And of course, he has promised to end the war.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] #5: &#8220;[O]f the three people who realistically still have a shot at the White House, he’s the only one I agree with on even a fraction of issues. He’s made some real noise about criminal justice reform, is at least amenable to reforming the drug laws. And though I have some fundamental disagreements with him on the proper role of government, he isn’t a bullshit artist, and seems genuinely amenable to new ideas. He isn’t wed to ideology. And of course, he has promised to end the war.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary-Grace Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary-Grace Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Work for something because it is good, not because it stands a chance to succeed.&quot; -V.H.

Ron Paul represents what a real America should be. We claim that we are free, and then we turn around to check and make sure that the way we proclaim our freedom is legal. We know that Ron has a very, very, very slim chance of winning this election, but that doesn&#039;t matter. He started a movement that will far outlast his life. When you find something that is worth fighting for, you have to work for it no matter what, even if it might fail. 
Thanks-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Work for something because it is good, not because it stands a chance to succeed.&#8221; -V.H.</p>
<p>Ron Paul represents what a real America should be. We claim that we are free, and then we turn around to check and make sure that the way we proclaim our freedom is legal. We know that Ron has a very, very, very slim chance of winning this election, but that doesn&#8217;t matter. He started a movement that will far outlast his life. When you find something that is worth fighting for, you have to work for it no matter what, even if it might fail.<br />
Thanks-</p>
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		<title>By: Robin B.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74766</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband &amp; I were registered libertarians for many years.  After the Badnarik debacle, we were so embarrassed by their wickedly poor judgement, not supporting Aaron Russo among other issues, we finally changed our affliation to republican so we could vote Ron Paul.  He&#039;s done more for libertarianism than the party or Cato ever will w/ their smugness.  Especially Cato, they&#039;re just part of the Establishment now anyway.
At least I didn&#039;t feel like I needed to shower after I left the voting booth.  We voted for the candidate who most represented our views, not who was most popular! We canvassed for RP here in CT and met dozens of people who said they really liked him but didn&#039;t think he was electable and didn&#039;t want to waste their vote.  Imagine if all these hundreds if not thousands of people voted their conscience- RP would actually have a realistic shot at the white house right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband &amp; I were registered libertarians for many years.  After the Badnarik debacle, we were so embarrassed by their wickedly poor judgement, not supporting Aaron Russo among other issues, we finally changed our affliation to republican so we could vote Ron Paul.  He&#8217;s done more for libertarianism than the party or Cato ever will w/ their smugness.  Especially Cato, they&#8217;re just part of the Establishment now anyway.<br />
At least I didn&#8217;t feel like I needed to shower after I left the voting booth.  We voted for the candidate who most represented our views, not who was most popular! We canvassed for RP here in CT and met dozens of people who said they really liked him but didn&#8217;t think he was electable and didn&#8217;t want to waste their vote.  Imagine if all these hundreds if not thousands of people voted their conscience- RP would actually have a realistic shot at the white house right now!</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two main parties usually offer us a choice between the lesser or two evils. I refuse to vote for either of them. In November I&#039;ll either write in Ron Paul or vote 3rd party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two main parties usually offer us a choice between the lesser or two evils. I refuse to vote for either of them. In November I&#8217;ll either write in Ron Paul or vote 3rd party.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74531</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks.  I valued the reasoning, and of course the vote.  Caucus wise, your vote was not wasted, if you were ardently anti-McCain, RP folks will likely end up supporting the pro-life, tax reforming, and subtly warmongerish (pander) huck rather than the not at all conservative, pro-choice because it&#039;s a convenient block to pander overt warmonger McCain.  But likely in the general, Obama is the lesser of a ardent well meaning socialist vs totalitarian religionist or angry warmonger in terms of evil.

Sad the Republicans are generally so misinformed-- by our excuse for a news media, we could have had better nominees, and Ron could have had a more amenable immigration stance for Libertarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks.  I valued the reasoning, and of course the vote.  Caucus wise, your vote was not wasted, if you were ardently anti-McCain, RP folks will likely end up supporting the pro-life, tax reforming, and subtly warmongerish (pander) huck rather than the not at all conservative, pro-choice because it&#8217;s a convenient block to pander overt warmonger McCain.  But likely in the general, Obama is the lesser of a ardent well meaning socialist vs totalitarian religionist or angry warmonger in terms of evil.</p>
<p>Sad the Republicans are generally so misinformed&#8211; by our excuse for a news media, we could have had better nominees, and Ron could have had a more amenable immigration stance for Libertarians.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley, 

As someone who is still wrestling with what to do with my (purely symbolic) vote in the NC primary, and is wavering between Paul and Obama for the reasons articulated by you and others on this thread, I appreciate you sharing your decision and your reasoning behind it.  

Even though I am currently leaning in the opposite direction myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley, </p>
<p>As someone who is still wrestling with what to do with my (purely symbolic) vote in the NC primary, and is wavering between Paul and Obama for the reasons articulated by you and others on this thread, I appreciate you sharing your decision and your reasoning behind it.  </p>
<p>Even though I am currently leaning in the opposite direction myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations: You voted FOR government, and stipulated that you&#039;ll abide by the outcome as the mob tears into your hide.

May your chains rest lightly upon you, and all that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations: You voted FOR government, and stipulated that you&#8217;ll abide by the outcome as the mob tears into your hide.</p>
<p>May your chains rest lightly upon you, and all that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly voted for Ron Paul.  Heck, I&#039;m signed up as a delegate to my state convention to vote for Ron Paul supporters to go to the national convention.  Who knows, maybe I&#039;ll be able to go to the national convention.  If Paul is still in it, my state has to give him 5 votes.  They might as well send me to cast one, right?  

I would probably vote for Obama against McCain in the general election, but then I&#039;d vote for inanimate objects against McCain.  The way I look at it, if Obama actually manages to get us out of Iraq, it might save us enough money to make up for at least some of the social programs that he&#039;ll institute.  With McCain, we&#039;ll definitely get more war (which we can&#039;t afford) and I&#039;d wager we&#039;ll get more social programs too. 

In all reality, the republican party doesn&#039;t stand a chance, and only after the coup de grace the democrats perform on our economy will any republican have a chance at winning the white house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly voted for Ron Paul.  Heck, I&#8217;m signed up as a delegate to my state convention to vote for Ron Paul supporters to go to the national convention.  Who knows, maybe I&#8217;ll be able to go to the national convention.  If Paul is still in it, my state has to give him 5 votes.  They might as well send me to cast one, right?  </p>
<p>I would probably vote for Obama against McCain in the general election, but then I&#8217;d vote for inanimate objects against McCain.  The way I look at it, if Obama actually manages to get us out of Iraq, it might save us enough money to make up for at least some of the social programs that he&#8217;ll institute.  With McCain, we&#8217;ll definitely get more war (which we can&#8217;t afford) and I&#8217;d wager we&#8217;ll get more social programs too. </p>
<p>In all reality, the republican party doesn&#8217;t stand a chance, and only after the coup de grace the democrats perform on our economy will any republican have a chance at winning the white house.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyJuvenile</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiskeyJuvenile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to follow-up my last comment.

Radley, you are, by far, one of my personal heroes.  This is the first thing I&#039;ve read of yours that I&#039;ve just wildly disagreed with.  And ultimately it didn&#039;t matter.  But really, Paul was just terrible. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to follow-up my last comment.</p>
<p>Radley, you are, by far, one of my personal heroes.  This is the first thing I&#8217;ve read of yours that I&#8217;ve just wildly disagreed with.  And ultimately it didn&#8217;t matter.  But really, Paul was just terrible. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Mikestermike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikestermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thrown away votes are the non cast and the miss cast. The non cast vote, no matter how noble the reason for it, is one, if not the, worst thing you can do. Wholesale boycotts of elections, for instance, make great headlines, but usually assures the least desirable outcome (for example &quot;His main opponent&#039;s party boycotted the election, assuring the marxist leader an easy 99% of the vote&quot;)
Don&#039;t bore me with statistical posturing or idealism. Not voting is really for the intellectually lazy. 
Miss cast votes, well, you saw what happened in Florida a few years back.
Those who think voting for the non mass-market candidate is a waste need to turn off the MSNBC and go see what third and fourth party candidates can do and &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; doing around the US, hopefully not breaking your neck as you fall from your elevated equine position...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thrown away votes are the non cast and the miss cast. The non cast vote, no matter how noble the reason for it, is one, if not the, worst thing you can do. Wholesale boycotts of elections, for instance, make great headlines, but usually assures the least desirable outcome (for example &#8220;His main opponent&#8217;s party boycotted the election, assuring the marxist leader an easy 99% of the vote&#8221;)<br />
Don&#8217;t bore me with statistical posturing or idealism. Not voting is really for the intellectually lazy.<br />
Miss cast votes, well, you saw what happened in Florida a few years back.<br />
Those who think voting for the non mass-market candidate is a waste need to turn off the MSNBC and go see what third and fourth party candidates can do and <i>are</i> doing around the US, hopefully not breaking your neck as you fall from your elevated equine position&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the mirror image to Radley; I went in planning to vote for Ron Paul and voted for Obama.

Paul&#039;s message has always been more important than his candidacy; he was never going to win. And the message has gotten out as far as it&#039;s going to, and thank goodness, the whole newsletter issue seems to have confined itself (mostly) to the libertarian crowd. I was upset at his involvement with it, but even more upset with his response. And I wrote the campaign, and got a pitiful, basically off-topic reply back from them. So for me, he lost his luster. 

Obama, on the other hand - he&#039;s way off on some issues, but I do believe he&#039;s sincere. Yesterday I heard a radio interview where the interviewer asked if he was a &quot;classic liberal,&quot; and he heard &quot;classical liberal.&quot; I was impressed that he knew what meant. He said that he was with regard to civil liberties, but not as much (I&#039;m paraphrasing) economically. Well, we knew that. But on the issues that matter most to me for where we are right now - civil liberties, Iraq - he&#039;s the best of the bunch that could get elected. So I respect the folks who vote for Paul&#039;s ideas, but to me his time  has passed. I went, somewhat grudgingly, for the practical choice. Surprised myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the mirror image to Radley; I went in planning to vote for Ron Paul and voted for Obama.</p>
<p>Paul&#8217;s message has always been more important than his candidacy; he was never going to win. And the message has gotten out as far as it&#8217;s going to, and thank goodness, the whole newsletter issue seems to have confined itself (mostly) to the libertarian crowd. I was upset at his involvement with it, but even more upset with his response. And I wrote the campaign, and got a pitiful, basically off-topic reply back from them. So for me, he lost his luster. </p>
<p>Obama, on the other hand &#8211; he&#8217;s way off on some issues, but I do believe he&#8217;s sincere. Yesterday I heard a radio interview where the interviewer asked if he was a &#8220;classic liberal,&#8221; and he heard &#8220;classical liberal.&#8221; I was impressed that he knew what meant. He said that he was with regard to civil liberties, but not as much (I&#8217;m paraphrasing) economically. Well, we knew that. But on the issues that matter most to me for where we are right now &#8211; civil liberties, Iraq &#8211; he&#8217;s the best of the bunch that could get elected. So I respect the folks who vote for Paul&#8217;s ideas, but to me his time  has passed. I went, somewhat grudgingly, for the practical choice. Surprised myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to respectfully disagree with Thorn, as I can easily understand why once you cast a vote that you could feel it&#039;s wasted.  While I disagree with Obama on probably 85-90% of his platform, if he is the Democratic nominee, I&#039;ll probably vote for him as I hope he&#039;s serious when saying he wants to bring combat troops home from Iraq.  

If he fails, or changes his mind, then I&#039;ll consider my vote wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to respectfully disagree with Thorn, as I can easily understand why once you cast a vote that you could feel it&#8217;s wasted.  While I disagree with Obama on probably 85-90% of his platform, if he is the Democratic nominee, I&#8217;ll probably vote for him as I hope he&#8217;s serious when saying he wants to bring combat troops home from Iraq.  </p>
<p>If he fails, or changes his mind, then I&#8217;ll consider my vote wasted.</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos for voting your conscience, Radley, instead of doing what far too many lemmings are doing this political season and voting for &quot;the guy that can win&quot;... whomever that&#039;s supposed to be.

I&#039;ll never understand people that believe that casting a vote can ever be a waste of a vote. The whole point of the process is to say &quot;this is who i want&quot; - not &quot;this is who i guess is going to win&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for voting your conscience, Radley, instead of doing what far too many lemmings are doing this political season and voting for &#8220;the guy that can win&#8221;&#8230; whomever that&#8217;s supposed to be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never understand people that believe that casting a vote can ever be a waste of a vote. The whole point of the process is to say &#8220;this is who i want&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;this is who i guess is going to win&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: André Kenji</title>
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		<dc:creator>André Kenji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we usually say here in Brazil: &quot;Santa Patrulha, Batman!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we usually say here in Brazil: &#8220;Santa Patrulha, Batman!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year, I am thinking of becoming a principled non-voter (barring some sort of miracle).  In 2004, the first time I voted, I voted for what I thought was the lesser of two evils- George Bush (don&#039;t judge me in hindsight).  This was a phase in my life where I hated non-voters.  There were two kinds- the indifferent and the principled.  My response to both was &quot;don&#039;t complain if you don&#039;t like what happens.&quot;  Looking back, all I can ask is that you don&#039;t blame me for voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year, I am thinking of becoming a principled non-voter (barring some sort of miracle).  In 2004, the first time I voted, I voted for what I thought was the lesser of two evils- George Bush (don&#8217;t judge me in hindsight).  This was a phase in my life where I hated non-voters.  There were two kinds- the indifferent and the principled.  My response to both was &#8220;don&#8217;t complain if you don&#8217;t like what happens.&#8221;  Looking back, all I can ask is that you don&#8217;t blame me for voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, Radley, your vote for Ron Paul, an ineffective advocate of libertarianism who I would think would have been discredited by his laughable response to the newsletter debacle lowers my respect for you a notch.

Throwing your vote away on Paul is worse than not voting.  At least not voting is defensible.  Rewarding a terrible advocate of libertarianism who has played to all the worst stereotypes of a libertarian with your vote really makes me disappointed in you.

Unlike Ron Paul, who can&#039;t actually manage to string two sentences together, you&#039;ve actually been an effective advocate of libertarianism through your journalism.

The whole idea of the Ron Paul Revolution - centered solely on the race for the presidency - really reminds me of the nine most terrifying words: &quot;I&#039;m from the government and I&#039;m here to help.&quot;  Live by your employer&#039;s motto: free minds and free markets.  Your work convincing people as to the merits of libertarianism does far more to further the cause of libertarianism than a man beholden to the closet racists at the Von Mises Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, Radley, your vote for Ron Paul, an ineffective advocate of libertarianism who I would think would have been discredited by his laughable response to the newsletter debacle lowers my respect for you a notch.</p>
<p>Throwing your vote away on Paul is worse than not voting.  At least not voting is defensible.  Rewarding a terrible advocate of libertarianism who has played to all the worst stereotypes of a libertarian with your vote really makes me disappointed in you.</p>
<p>Unlike Ron Paul, who can&#8217;t actually manage to string two sentences together, you&#8217;ve actually been an effective advocate of libertarianism through your journalism.</p>
<p>The whole idea of the Ron Paul Revolution &#8211; centered solely on the race for the presidency &#8211; really reminds me of the nine most terrifying words: &#8220;I&#8217;m from the government and I&#8217;m here to help.&#8221;  Live by your employer&#8217;s motto: free minds and free markets.  Your work convincing people as to the merits of libertarianism does far more to further the cause of libertarianism than a man beholden to the closet racists at the Von Mises Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank N Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74282</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank N Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for doing the right thing. If you had kept your choice to the front-runners, it would be between a socialist and a warmonger. Nothing you&#039;ve presented on this site has indicated either trait is attractive to you. As others above have mentioned, your vote is mathematically insignificant, an exercise in futility. But since we are given the rare chance to actually have an insignificant say in our government, we might as well use it to vote for someone whose stated platform is something we agree with, not something which at best can be described as a lesser evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for doing the right thing. If you had kept your choice to the front-runners, it would be between a socialist and a warmonger. Nothing you&#8217;ve presented on this site has indicated either trait is attractive to you. As others above have mentioned, your vote is mathematically insignificant, an exercise in futility. But since we are given the rare chance to actually have an insignificant say in our government, we might as well use it to vote for someone whose stated platform is something we agree with, not something which at best can be described as a lesser evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarians for Obama</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74276</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertarians for Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, Obama&#039;s plan has been more about driving the cost of health care (and thus health insurance) down than anything.  The idea that we have this pristine market of health care that needs to be protected against government meddling is obviously false, but I haven&#039;t really seen anything that&#039;s that convincing that UHC will be a per se vast departure from the level of government interference already present in health care, which is to say I don&#039;t see how it will make the situation worse.  Mandates, of course, are terrible and are a government redistribution of wealth from the public to insurance companies.  Focusing on driving down costs at least seems like a sensible step.

And given the fact that Obama can use every vote in this race for delegates he can get against Hillary, throwing away your vote instead of voting for the one person you could live with really doesn&#039;t strike me as making much sense.  I mean you say &quot;with Ron Paul still available as an option,&quot; but he&#039;s clearly not.  It&#039;s like going out to a restaurant for dinner, seeing a filet mignon you think looks appetizing on the menu, ordering it, and being told that they&#039;re out, and then settling for, I dunno, a tuna steak.  Yeah, Ron Paul&#039;s on the ballot, but you&#039;re not going to get him.  If you&#039;re not down with tuna, you&#039;re free to leave the restaurant, but by your own admission it seems like you would have been comfortable with the tuna.  I&#039;m sorry to hear that you&#039;d rather go hungry.

And yes, the four thousand for service won&#039;t help, but all things being equal, I&#039;d rather set fire to the money than have it go to funding the Iraq War, which is why it is so important that Obama get the nomination, as he is most likely to win in November among those likely to stop the war.
But then again, I run www.libertariansforobama.org, so I might be biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, Obama&#8217;s plan has been more about driving the cost of health care (and thus health insurance) down than anything.  The idea that we have this pristine market of health care that needs to be protected against government meddling is obviously false, but I haven&#8217;t really seen anything that&#8217;s that convincing that UHC will be a per se vast departure from the level of government interference already present in health care, which is to say I don&#8217;t see how it will make the situation worse.  Mandates, of course, are terrible and are a government redistribution of wealth from the public to insurance companies.  Focusing on driving down costs at least seems like a sensible step.</p>
<p>And given the fact that Obama can use every vote in this race for delegates he can get against Hillary, throwing away your vote instead of voting for the one person you could live with really doesn&#8217;t strike me as making much sense.  I mean you say &#8220;with Ron Paul still available as an option,&#8221; but he&#8217;s clearly not.  It&#8217;s like going out to a restaurant for dinner, seeing a filet mignon you think looks appetizing on the menu, ordering it, and being told that they&#8217;re out, and then settling for, I dunno, a tuna steak.  Yeah, Ron Paul&#8217;s on the ballot, but you&#8217;re not going to get him.  If you&#8217;re not down with tuna, you&#8217;re free to leave the restaurant, but by your own admission it seems like you would have been comfortable with the tuna.  I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you&#8217;d rather go hungry.</p>
<p>And yes, the four thousand for service won&#8217;t help, but all things being equal, I&#8217;d rather set fire to the money than have it go to funding the Iraq War, which is why it is so important that Obama get the nomination, as he is most likely to win in November among those likely to stop the war.<br />
But then again, I run <a href="http://www.libertariansforobama.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.libertariansforobama.org</a>, so I might be biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Hanneken</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74266</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Hanneken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian C.,

Yes, that&#039;s the situation where your vote creates an exact tie.  That is, without your vote, there would be no tie, but with your vote, there is a tie.  Yes, the same can be said of everyone else&#039;s vote in that scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian C.,</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the situation where your vote creates an exact tie.  That is, without your vote, there would be no tie, but with your vote, there is a tie.  Yes, the same can be said of everyone else&#8217;s vote in that scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Furious George</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/12/i-voted/comment-page-1/#comment-74262</link>
		<dc:creator>Furious George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comments about divided government.  If it appears that the democrats will have a majority in the House and Senate then I will bite my tongue and vote republican.  Are Iraq and the drug war large enough issues to welcome increased entitlements, more growth of federal government power, universal healthcare, etc?  When the republicans had total legislative and executive branch control we suffered, is there any reason to doubt that would be any different with the democrats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comments about divided government.  If it appears that the democrats will have a majority in the House and Senate then I will bite my tongue and vote republican.  Are Iraq and the drug war large enough issues to welcome increased entitlements, more growth of federal government power, universal healthcare, etc?  When the republicans had total legislative and executive branch control we suffered, is there any reason to doubt that would be any different with the democrats?</p>
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