Comments on: From the Department of Bad Ideas http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:51:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2008-02-18 – Cops are here to protect you. http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-75410 Rad Geek People’s Daily 2008-02-18 – Cops are here to protect you. Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:11:26 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-75410 [...] tips to Lew, Balko, Anthony Gregory #1, Anthony Gregory #2, Bill Anderson, Anthony Gregory #3, Anthony Gregory [...] [...] tips to Lew, Balko, Anthony Gregory #1, Anthony Gregory #2, Bill Anderson, Anthony Gregory #3, Anthony Gregory [...]

]]> By: Gino Sesto http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74613 Gino Sesto Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:21:54 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74613 I am sad to say that I was the facilitator of this obnoxious legistlaion. My company, ratemycop.com, sent out open records requests to departments all around the country. We simply asked for Names and IDs of officers (no undercovers) This Senator chose to use this as a political football and completely misrepresent our intentions for some quack legistlation. I only hope the citizens of Utah vote him out. I am sad to say that I was the facilitator of this obnoxious legistlaion. My company, ratemycop.com, sent out open records requests to departments all around the country. We simply asked for Names and IDs of officers (no undercovers) This Senator chose to use this as a political football and completely misrepresent our intentions for some quack legistlation. I only hope the citizens of Utah vote him out.

]]> By: Hannah http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74183 Hannah Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:04:04 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74183 "They are collaborating with compliant Prosecuting Attorneys, using old “wiretapping” laws related to electronic eavesdropping, to try and intimidate the citizenry, even an innocent bystander, from electronically recording these encounters using a personal video camcorder or cell phone. And things like this make me wish that we could get our legislators to go through the books and get ride of the old laws that no longer apply or need to be updated. I once pointed this need out to a friend who’s husband is an officer using a piece of junk law on the books in WV that says its ok to beat your wife, so long as its done on a Sunday and on the court steps. She told me that there was no need since the new laws would supersede the old ones. I asked her if that she really thought that would apply if it was an Officer who was doing the beating and she had to pause for a moment and admit that they probably wouldn’t be charged. “They are collaborating with compliant Prosecuting Attorneys, using old “wiretapping” laws related to electronic eavesdropping, to try and intimidate the citizenry, even an innocent bystander, from electronically recording these encounters using a personal video camcorder or cell phone.

And things like this make me wish that we could get our legislators to go through the books and get ride of the old laws that no longer apply or need to be updated. I once pointed this need out to a friend who’s husband is an officer using a piece of junk law on the books in WV that says its ok to beat your wife, so long as its done on a Sunday and on the court steps. She told me that there was no need since the new laws would supersede the old ones. I asked her if that she really thought that would apply if it was an Officer who was doing the beating and she had to pause for a moment and admit that they probably wouldn’t be charged.

]]> By: Whim http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74181 Whim Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:44:34 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74181 In more than just a few states, the police are agitating against the citizenry "tape recording" encounters between police and the citizenry. They are collaborating with compliant Prosecuting Attorneys, using old "wiretapping" laws related to electronic eavesdropping, to try and intimidate the citizenry, even an innocent bystander, from electronically recording these encounters using a personal video camcorder or cell phone. With the advent of new technology such as the video cell phone and light, compact video cameras, the police "gold standard" of DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES is starting to erode. Next, expect the police agitate for Cell Phone JAMMERS so that the citizenry then cannot record and transmit a police encounter. They'll claim the Jammers are for "their protection". From what? IED's?? No, ..... lawsuits. In more than just a few states, the police are agitating against the citizenry “tape recording” encounters between police and the citizenry.

They are collaborating with compliant Prosecuting Attorneys, using old “wiretapping” laws related to electronic eavesdropping, to try and intimidate the citizenry, even an innocent bystander, from electronically recording these encounters using a personal video camcorder or cell phone.

With the advent of new technology such as the video cell phone and light, compact video cameras, the police “gold standard” of DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES is starting to erode.

Next, expect the police agitate for Cell Phone JAMMERS so that the citizenry then cannot record and transmit a police encounter.

They’ll claim the Jammers are for “their protection”.

From what?

IED’s??

No, ….. lawsuits.

]]> By: Dave Krueger http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74157 Dave Krueger Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:01:00 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74157 And soon after they pass that they will probably make it a crime to photograph a cop in the performance of his duties. And eventually it will be a crime to report about cops in a disparaging or offensive way. And soon after they pass that they will probably make it a crime to photograph a cop in the performance of his duties.

And eventually it will be a crime to report about cops in a disparaging or offensive way.

]]> By: David http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74144 David Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:35:35 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74144 <i>Nice visual. Can we pull a Santorum on this asshat?<i> We can certainly try. Main Entry: But·tar Pronunciation: \ˈbə-tarred\ 1: <i>verb</i>To strech corners of the mouth to the point of splitting as a result of repeatedly fellating law enforcement. 2: <i>noun</i> The freshly churned semen and saliva foam around the mouth of someone who has been buttaring. Nice visual. Can we pull a Santorum on this asshat?

We can certainly try.

Main Entry:
But·tar
Pronunciation:
\ˈbə-tarred\

1: verbTo strech corners of the mouth to the point of splitting as a result of repeatedly fellating law enforcement.
2: noun The freshly churned semen and saliva foam around the mouth of someone who has been buttaring.

]]> By: Nando http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74136 Nando Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:08:51 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74136 But it's, you know, for the children! But it’s, you know, for the children!

]]> By: Frank http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74127 Frank Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:29:56 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74127 “…popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed.” Nice visual. Can we pull a Santorum on this asshat? “…popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed.”

Nice visual. Can we pull a Santorum on this asshat?

]]> By: dmoynihan http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74121 dmoynihan Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:02:56 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74121 Um, <a HREF="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chapped+Ass" rel="nofollow">Chapped ass</A> is a raw, painful condition in a certain region, rapid consumption of chili, such as occurs at a chili feed, implies greater-than-usual passage of material through that region, hence the lack of popularity of chapping. Um, Chapped ass is a raw, painful condition in a certain region, rapid consumption of chili, such as occurs at a chili feed, implies greater-than-usual passage of material through that region, hence the lack of popularity of chapping.

]]> By: TC http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74111 TC Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:32:16 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74111 "...popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed." I'm even trying to work this through my system... coming up lame. Webster was of no help at all. Feel free. PLEASE!! “…popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed.”

I’m even trying to work this through my system… coming up lame.

Webster was of no help at all. Feel free. PLEASE!!

]]> By: Sycanman http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74091 Sycanman Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:15:32 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74091 It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. if the reader comments on the SLC Tribune web site are any indication, this Buttars (such an appropriate name ;) jerk is about as popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. if the reader comments on the SLC Tribune web site are any indication, this Buttars (such an appropriate name ;) jerk is about as popular as a chapped ass at a chili feed.

]]> By: Laconic http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74086 Laconic Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:00:10 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74086 And why wouldn't they like him? As long as he can couch the idea in terms of security ("If cops are less safe, you're less safe, too" or some such) then the public will probably get behind it, too. And why wouldn’t they like him?

As long as he can couch the idea in terms of security (”If cops are less safe, you’re less safe, too” or some such) then the public will probably get behind it, too.

]]> By: Observant Bystander http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74080 Observant Bystander Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:10:33 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74080 Utah law enforcement really likes this guy. According to his official bio, he has been Law Enforcement Legislator of the Year three times since his first year in office in 2001. It will be interesting to see if he can pull out a 4th victory after this proposal. http://www.utahsenate.org/perl/spage/distbio2007.pl?dist10 Utah law enforcement really likes this guy. According to his official bio, he has been Law Enforcement Legislator of the Year three times since his first year in office in 2001. It will be interesting to see if he can pull out a 4th victory after this proposal.

http://www.utahsenate.org/perl/spage/distbio2007.pl?dist10

]]> By: Nick Gallias http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74059 Nick Gallias Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:49:08 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74059 Never. No way. Never. No way.

]]> By: TC http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74052 TC Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:27:26 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74052 Josh, it's not Utah, it's a few idiots in positions of power that probably should be the stone yard. This guy makes Hitler appear to be a boy scout. Josh, it’s not Utah, it’s a few idiots in positions of power that probably should be the stone yard.

This guy makes Hitler appear to be a boy scout.

]]> By: B. West http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74051 B. West Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:27:04 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74051 They keep and publish records of doctors who have been charged with malpractice, incompetence, and negligence. What's so special about police officers that the public can't be made aware of who the bad ones are? They keep and publish records of doctors who have been charged with malpractice, incompetence, and negligence. What’s so special about police officers that the public can’t be made aware of who the bad ones are?

]]> By: Josh http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74036 Josh Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:27:54 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/11/from-the-department-of-bad-ideas-2/#comment-74036 Thanks, Utah, for attempting to legally sanction "secret police." Such a proud legacy that term has. Thanks, Utah, for attempting to legally sanction “secret police.” Such a proud legacy that term has.

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