Comments on: In Which I Defend the Fresno Police Department http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:50:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: OGRE http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72326 OGRE Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:05:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72326 I would agree that the conduct of the police in this instance is perfectly reasonable and appropriate. It is of course unfortunate that this woman was subjected to this experience, but the blame does not lie with the police here. I note that the police here did properly restrain themselves from barging into the home without a warrant. My understanding is that, although it might vary among jurisdictions, the police would need a search warrant (to search for the suspect) in a private residence even if in hot pursuit so long as the suspect is not believed to be a danger. I applaud the police here for not barging into the residence without a warrant. In many other places this situation could have become a virtual nightmare very quickly.... I would agree that the conduct of the police in this instance is perfectly reasonable and appropriate. It is of course unfortunate that this woman was subjected to this experience, but the blame does not lie with the police here.

I note that the police here did properly restrain themselves from barging into the home without a warrant. My understanding is that, although it might vary among jurisdictions, the police would need a search warrant (to search for the suspect) in a private residence even if in hot pursuit so long as the suspect is not believed to be a danger.

I applaud the police here for not barging into the residence without a warrant. In many other places this situation could have become a virtual nightmare very quickly….

]]> By: David Chesler http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72244 David Chesler Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:05:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72244 Mark suggested the cops could have knocked on the door. They could also have telephoned. I'm glad it wasn't as bad as it could have been, but that doesn't mean it's good. Pointing a gun at someone is an awesome power, and it comes with a comparable responsibility. Mark suggested the cops could have knocked on the door. They could also have telephoned. I’m glad it wasn’t as bad as it could have been, but that doesn’t mean it’s good. Pointing a gun at someone is an awesome power, and it comes with a comparable responsibility.

]]> By: Pat Lynch http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72235 Pat Lynch Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:05:00 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72235 Agree with RB, sometimes in life you can get screwed and have nobody to blame. Life's not fair. Agree with RB, sometimes in life you can get screwed and have nobody to blame. Life’s not fair.

]]> By: Packratt http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72201 Packratt Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:07:26 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72201 Johnny, the definition of "police doing their job properly" varies from department to department. Here in Seattle the department policies state it's perfectly fine to shatter a 125 lb girl's face by leg-sweeping and shoving her face first into the pavement for nothing more than giving legal advice to someone being taken into custody. In other areas, it might be a bit more civilized... So, I should have been more clear and said that it's nice to see a department where officers are trained to be more professional and restrained... but you'll have to forgive me since my brain doesn't work as well as it did before my encounter with the police here. Johnny, the definition of “police doing their job properly” varies from department to department. Here in Seattle the department policies state it’s perfectly fine to shatter a 125 lb girl’s face by leg-sweeping and shoving her face first into the pavement for nothing more than giving legal advice to someone being taken into custody.

In other areas, it might be a bit more civilized… So, I should have been more clear and said that it’s nice to see a department where officers are trained to be more professional and restrained… but you’ll have to forgive me since my brain doesn’t work as well as it did before my encounter with the police here.

]]> By: troy http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72200 troy Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:04:13 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72200 When cops act with a modicum of humanity, that should be reported too. When cops act with a modicum of humanity, that should be reported too.

]]> By: Lior http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72194 Lior Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:32:36 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72194 <blockquote>they simply surrounded the police</blockquote> That should be "surrounded the place", right?

they simply surrounded the police

That should be “surrounded the place”, right?

]]> By: J sub D http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72192 J sub D Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:25:08 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72192 Radley, it's nice to see you give credit where credit is due. It speaks well of you. Many advocates of causes don't have that sort of honesty. Why isn't there a preview option here? I'm an HTML idjit and need all the help I can get. ;-( Radley, it’s nice to see you give credit where credit is due. It speaks well of you. Many advocates of causes don’t have that sort of honesty.

Why isn’t there a preview option here? I’m an HTML idjit and need all the help I can get. ;-(

]]> By: The Johnny Appleseed Of Crack http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72182 The Johnny Appleseed Of Crack Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:35:42 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72182 Packratt, Not that I am a police sympathizer, but maybe it just doesn't make the news most of the time when the cops do their job properly. Packratt,

Not that I am a police sympathizer, but maybe it just doesn’t make the news most of the time when the cops do their job properly.

]]> By: Packratt http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72180 Packratt Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:44:40 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72180 I agree, it is nice to see that some police departments still encourage their officers to conduct themselves appropriately, it sets an example and I do wish there were more stories like this to tell. ...of course, it sadly speaks volumes that there aren't. I agree, it is nice to see that some police departments still encourage their officers to conduct themselves appropriately, it sets an example and I do wish there were more stories like this to tell.

…of course, it sadly speaks volumes that there aren’t.

]]> By: Andy Stedman http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72179 Andy Stedman Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:43:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/02/02/in-which-i-defend-the-fresno-police-department/#comment-72179 Radley, If you were chasing a car thief (not a mass murderer, rapist, kidnapper) would you have the right to do what the police did? Radley,

If you were chasing a car thief (not a mass murderer, rapist, kidnapper) would you have the right to do what the police did?

]]>