Comments on: Scalia’s New Professionalism Roundup http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Police Accountability Is A Good Thing http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-79795 Police Accountability Is A Good Thing Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:25:35 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-79795 [...] screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, obviously. But that’s precisely why we [...] [...] screws up, the result can be innocent people being harrassed, humiliated, arrested, injured or killed. The cops who do those things are a small minority, obviously. But that’s precisely why we [...]

]]> By: Kev http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71992 Kev Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:15:25 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71992 Regarding the officer who beat the patient in the wheelchair: What happened to all of the other cops that simply watched? They should all be fired too, especially the one who kept looking around to see if anyone was watching. I really want to think most cops are good and basically honest, but I wonder how these things can happen and get swept under the rug if that's the case. Regarding the KKK cop, it's a shame that the only situation where cops seems to turn other cops in is when there's racism involved. Beat up other citizens? Go right ahead. Insult another officer, get turned in. (I just read the rest of UCrawford's comment on the KKK cop, and they astutely made this point already, but I'll go ahead and second it) Regarding the officer who beat the patient in the wheelchair: What happened to all of the other cops that simply watched? They should all be fired too, especially the one who kept looking around to see if anyone was watching. I really want to think most cops are good and basically honest, but I wonder how these things can happen and get swept under the rug if that’s the case.

Regarding the KKK cop, it’s a shame that the only situation where cops seems to turn other cops in is when there’s racism involved. Beat up other citizens? Go right ahead. Insult another officer, get turned in. (I just read the rest of UCrawford’s comment on the KKK cop, and they astutely made this point already, but I’ll go ahead and second it)

]]> By: Rough Ol’ Boy » Blog Archive » To Serve and Protect http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71870 Rough Ol’ Boy » Blog Archive » To Serve and Protect Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:51:56 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71870 [...] stealing the occupants’ drugs, and then reselling them.  The story is from Radley Balko at the Agitator, who wryly notes that “not only can you not be sure the people banging down your door at [...] [...] stealing the occupants’ drugs, and then reselling them.  The story is from Radley Balko at the Agitator, who wryly notes that “not only can you not be sure the people banging down your door at [...]

]]> By: GreginOz http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71858 GreginOz Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:57:50 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71858 re the two pretty young sisters murdered by that cop...what would you chaps do if it happened to YOUR sisters??? I already know what I would DO! And it would not 'thrill' the cop, although it might rhyme with thrill...'bill'? Nope. 'till'? uh-uh... re the two pretty young sisters murdered by that cop…what would you chaps do if it happened to YOUR sisters??? I already know what I would DO! And it would not ‘thrill’ the cop, although it might rhyme with thrill…’bill’? Nope. ’till’? uh-uh…

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71857 UCrawford Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:41:45 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71857 Oh well, at least the Philadelphia cop with the racist posters and stickers appears to be getting nailed for what he did. http://www.nbc10.com/news/15169254/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news He claimed that someone stuck the poster in his locker as a joke but IAD fingerprinted it and found only his prints. They've pulled him from his division, stuck him on desk duty and are going over his case files to see if there's a pattern of racial bias. Apparently his fellow officers (who were black) were the ones who ratted him out so there's a chance if he did something wrong he'll actually get caught for it. Sad though that the only way that a bad cop seems to be able to get in trouble is if he does something that personally offends other police officers. Oh well, at least the Philadelphia cop with the racist posters and stickers appears to be getting nailed for what he did.

http://www.nbc10.com/news/15169254/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news

He claimed that someone stuck the poster in his locker as a joke but IAD fingerprinted it and found only his prints. They’ve pulled him from his division, stuck him on desk duty and are going over his case files to see if there’s a pattern of racial bias. Apparently his fellow officers (who were black) were the ones who ratted him out so there’s a chance if he did something wrong he’ll actually get caught for it. Sad though that the only way that a bad cop seems to be able to get in trouble is if he does something that personally offends other police officers.

]]> By: thehim http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71838 thehim Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:15:08 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71838 Radley, Mayor Nickels in Seattle is not a new mayor. He's been around for a while (since 2003 I think). Radley, Mayor Nickels in Seattle is not a new mayor. He’s been around for a while (since 2003 I think).

]]> By: Phil http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71833 Phil Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:28:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71833 I'm just curious, does anybody try to get all of these "new professionalism" roundups to Scalia? Maybe you could print them out and mail them to his office? I’m just curious, does anybody try to get all of these “new professionalism” roundups to Scalia? Maybe you could print them out and mail them to his office?

]]> By: dan in michigan http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71807 dan in michigan Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:09:55 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71807 Regarding the Illinois State Trooper, I believe that the state police have finished the investigation and the trooper will be charged with reckless homicide. I live near the accident scene (ignore the nickname) and it was one of the most tragic, stupid, and unnecessary things I have ever seen. Two beautiful kids from one family. Jesus Regarding the Illinois State Trooper, I believe that the state police have finished the investigation and the trooper will be charged with reckless homicide. I live near the accident scene (ignore the nickname) and it was one of the most tragic, stupid, and unnecessary things I have ever seen. Two beautiful kids from one family. Jesus

]]> By: FTP http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71803 FTP Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:50:51 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71803 http://www.wnbc.com/news/15184911/detail.html Another for your list. http://www.wnbc.com/news/15184911/detail.html

Another for your list.

]]> By: ZappaCrappa http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71787 ZappaCrappa Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:53:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71787 "The only way you can justify getting angry at him (as a cop) is if you can prove that what he said was wrong. If you can’t, then you have to admit, as a good cop, that bad cops are a far larger threat to you and your reputation than someone who points them out." You are absolutely 100% correct Brian. Unfortunately, at least on the cop sites, anyone who questions anything about cops or raises questions is automatically labled a "cop hater." “The only way you can justify getting angry at him (as a cop) is if you can prove that what he said was wrong. If you can’t, then you have to admit, as a good cop, that bad cops are a far larger threat to you and your reputation than someone who points them out.”

You are absolutely 100% correct Brian. Unfortunately, at least on the cop sites, anyone who questions anything about cops or raises questions is automatically labled a “cop hater.”

]]> By: Packratt http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71771 Packratt Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:12:43 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71771 Um, about that Seattle story, it's not quite as simple as it's being laid out. The mayor and the city may be quite unable to enact the reforms that the two different panels they formed have presented to them. Reforms suggested by the council's panels were implemented last year, only to be overruled by a complaint to the state labor board from the police union (SPOG). If that ruling stands, the reforms might never get enacted because of police opposition via it's union. If you're interested, you can read an assessment here: http://injusticeinseattle.blogspot.com/2008/01/oparp-report-has-been-released.html Um, about that Seattle story, it’s not quite as simple as it’s being laid out. The mayor and the city may be quite unable to enact the reforms that the two different panels they formed have presented to them.

Reforms suggested by the council’s panels were implemented last year, only to be overruled by a complaint to the state labor board from the police union (SPOG). If that ruling stands, the reforms might never get enacted because of police opposition via it’s union.

If you’re interested, you can read an assessment here:
http://injusticeinseattle.blogspot.com/2008/01/oparp-report-has-been-released.html

]]> By: Keith http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71754 Keith Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:26:27 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71754 In item six above, this was an Illinois State Trooper, not a Missouri cop. In item six above, this was an Illinois State Trooper, not a Missouri cop.

]]> By: Brian Moore http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71752 Brian Moore Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:23:16 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71752 The only way you can justify getting angry at him (as a cop) is if you can prove that what he said was wrong. If you can't, then you have to admit, as a good cop, that bad cops are a far larger threat to you and your reputation than someone who points them out. The only way you can justify getting angry at him (as a cop) is if you can prove that what he said was wrong. If you can’t, then you have to admit, as a good cop, that bad cops are a far larger threat to you and your reputation than someone who points them out.

]]> By: ZappaCrappa http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71751 ZappaCrappa Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:19:36 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71751 But remember kiddies, we have NO reason to fear or distrust the police. Their motto is "PROTECT our own butts and SERVE you a big 'ol can of kick ass" Digusting stories...I'm willing to bet at the cop sites they are now railing Radley for being a cop hater...AND also standing in line to support their "brothers in blue." I would go check...but I have no desire to vomit this early in the morning. But remember kiddies, we have NO reason to fear or distrust the police. Their motto is “PROTECT our own butts and SERVE you a big ‘ol can of kick ass”

Digusting stories…I’m willing to bet at the cop sites they are now railing Radley for being a cop hater…AND also standing in line to support their “brothers in blue.” I would go check…but I have no desire to vomit this early in the morning.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71741 Nathan Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:58:37 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71741 Tell me Radley, do you keep your hair short to prevent yourself from pulling it out? Tell me Radley, do you keep your hair short to prevent yourself from pulling it out?

]]> By: Nando http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71740 Nando Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:56:34 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71740 Did anyone else find it ironic that the prostitution case took place in Arapahoe County? Anywho, that cop that beat the wheelchair-bound man should not only be fired, he should face criminal charges. That's just my opinion, anyway. I also think that the story about L.A. cops faking raids to rob people should be used by the defense in the Ryan Frederick case. Did anyone else find it ironic that the prostitution case took place in Arapahoe County?

Anywho, that cop that beat the wheelchair-bound man should not only be fired, he should face criminal charges. That’s just my opinion, anyway.

I also think that the story about L.A. cops faking raids to rob people should be used by the defense in the Ryan Frederick case.

]]> By: Brian Moore http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71738 Brian Moore Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:44:36 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/31/scalias-new-professionalism-roundup-2/#comment-71738 To add: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/31/cop.prostitution/index.html Only because I happened to see it on CNN this morning. :( To add:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/31/cop.prostitution/index.html

Only because I happened to see it on CNN this morning. :(

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