I for one am damn tired of the subhuman filth who call themselves “The Police” waging a brutal campaign persecution against people whose drug of choice differs from that of the alcohol-imbibing majority. Mr. Piggy Policeman, if you don’t want your goddamn snout blown off in the war on drugs, then stand down and get a real fucking job.

Rot in Hell, Copper. And may many more join you.

Were the police looking for the specific kind of illegal drugs the guy was in possession of?

He knew he was wanted by the police. The men he and his subordinates fired on were in uniform in broad daylight in clearly marked police vehicles. Koresh even had advance warning the police were coming.

If I were on David Koresh’s jury — assuming his suicidal martyrdom had failed — I would’ve found him guilty of whatever charges would’ve sent him to death row.

With all the people wrongfully prosecuted for defending themselves in no-knock raids in tragic cases of mistaken identity — a list of names that grows every year — the last person who needs to be poster boy is David Koresh.

Who’s next on our list of heroes? O.J. Simpson? You people need to get some perspective.

I also agree with most of what everyone else is saying here, don’t get me wrong: no-knock raids kill. They’re a terrible idea.

A darn shame that Ryan David Frederick did not kill MORE of the home invading goons with badges. “Only doing their job” = “Ve vere only following ORDERS”, I’ve no sympathy for cops who get their fool selves killed executing “No knock” warrants. Such go against the very basis of rule by law that is one of the foundations of this Republic.

David Koresh – was on friendly terms with the local police, had even called them for assistance to clean up a drug lab that the previous occupants of Mt. Carmel had left behind. That mattered not one wit to the buffoons at ATF who executed a standard “knock & announce” warrant as if it were a no-knock and who LIED to bypass Posse Comitatus in order to get military support for their “Operation Showboat”.

I said “You can’t be the police! Show me a badge!”

“Open the door, and we will show you a badge.”

I opened the door, but kept the little chain on.

(Thud!) but I saw the patch on his shoulder. Still foiled by the chain!

“I saw your uniform. If you stop pushing on the door, I will open it.”

“I opened the door. They rushed in. Back then I didn’t wear pajamas….

With my hands in the air “What can I do for you officers, I obviously have nothing to hide.”

They were looking for a black man. I am white, with blue eyes and red hair. With a couple of stripes I could be a flag.

They had cracked the frame of the door. They had also gotten the wrong building in the apartment complex.

I can see where, if you didn’t have a heroically strong door, that you could reasonably be threatened by someone trying to smash through your door without notice.

I think I would rather have drugs sold at Walgreens and Walmart than have the police dashing about trying to smash in people’s doors based on the self serving testimony of a criminal trying to get a plea bargain.

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No law-abiding citizen chooses to defy the police with force. The tragedy of the no-knock raid is that it turns law-abiding citizens into innocent cop killers. Think about that: could there be anything so terrible as a policy that leads innocent people to kill police officers?

Those of you angry at the police and claiming they “got what was coming”, let me ask you: would you really want to pull the trigger on someone you knew was just doing his job but simply had the wrong house? If you shot an officer in a no-knock incident and were rightfully acquitted, would you, given the chance, pull the trigger all over again? If you could re-live the moment of decision would you choose to have that death on your conscience?

If we’re going to convince law enforcement that no-knock raids are a bad idea we need to show sympathy to officers killed by this dangerous policy.

No-knock raids aren’t just the enemy of law-abiding gun owners but of the police themselves. We should be on the SAME SIDE here, or at least we should always take the position that we are.

The police are not your enemy, even if they’re no-knock-raiding your home. If you shoot a police officer in an innocent case of mistaken identity the police officer didn’t “get what was coming to him”, he was a tragic victim of politicians’ support of the laws and policies that promulgate no-knock raids in the first place.

If there is an enemy here it is a policy, and it is that policy we should focus our efforts on eliminating.

Better for SWAT to surround the house, yell ‘Drug Raid’ knock on the front door then wait 10min. By then the perp has flushed the evidence sure. But the perp eventually gives up in a less dangerous situation. Sure the case will crumble. But you keep it up. Probable cause will present itself again and again is they are a seller. Lose too much stuff, and their suppliers will either off’em or not sell to them anymore.

They say a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. I say a libertarian is someone, like me, who has had law enforcement officials draw down on them while they’re in their own home! In my case, it was because the getaway car in a local bank robbery was the same make and color as mine.

My wife’s uncle, a 30-year veteran on a small-town police force, took early retirement last year instead of continuing to work with “the type of person becoming cops these days”. According to him, he drew his gun 4 times in 32 years, and he was working with guys who did it 4 times in a week!