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	<title>Comments on: Puppycide</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/15/puppycide-12/comment-page-1/#comment-69688</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Farnsworth was investigating a vandalism case and approached a man in a yard. The man&#039;s dog appeared from behind him. Farnsworth said in a report the dog charged and lunged at him, and Farnsworth shot the dog to protect himself. The dog owner disputed the animal was a threat. &quot;

http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_7941084

Oh wait, wait, hold on....  Seems this time he was just beating on his wife.

&quot;A Salt Lake City police officer was cited for domestic violence after a dispute with his wife and has been given leave from the department. &quot;

Carry on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Farnsworth was investigating a vandalism case and approached a man in a yard. The man&#8217;s dog appeared from behind him. Farnsworth said in a report the dog charged and lunged at him, and Farnsworth shot the dog to protect himself. The dog owner disputed the animal was a threat. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_7941084" rel="nofollow">http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_7941084</a></p>
<p>Oh wait, wait, hold on&#8230;.  Seems this time he was just beating on his wife.</p>
<p>&#8220;A Salt Lake City police officer was cited for domestic violence after a dispute with his wife and has been given leave from the department. &#8221;</p>
<p>Carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: Persona non grata</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/15/puppycide-12/comment-page-1/#comment-69542</link>
		<dc:creator>Persona non grata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another example of &quot;professional&quot; assholes on patrol.

oderint dum metuant]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another example of &#8220;professional&#8221; assholes on patrol.</p>
<p>oderint dum metuant</p>
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		<title>By: Zeb</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/15/puppycide-12/comment-page-1/#comment-69508</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the questions I always have when I hear about these sorts of incidents.
If I am carrying a handgun (with appropriate permits, of course) and I perceive someone&#039;s dog to be threatening me, can I shoot it with impunity?  Or is this a special power that police have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the questions I always have when I hear about these sorts of incidents.<br />
If I am carrying a handgun (with appropriate permits, of course) and I perceive someone&#8217;s dog to be threatening me, can I shoot it with impunity?  Or is this a special power that police have?</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/15/puppycide-12/comment-page-1/#comment-69506</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One comment we constantly get from police officers is that we should give them a break because their job is so dangerous. Well, if they go around shooting everything in sight before assessing the situation and trying to diffuse it, how in the hell can their job be dangerous... to them? 

And why do we accept their demands for safety? Shouldn&#039;t part of the danger of the police officer&#039;s job be intercept the risk of harm to the citizen and the citizen&#039;s property. They&#039;re supposed to protect US! All of the rules protect THEM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One comment we constantly get from police officers is that we should give them a break because their job is so dangerous. Well, if they go around shooting everything in sight before assessing the situation and trying to diffuse it, how in the hell can their job be dangerous&#8230; to them? </p>
<p>And why do we accept their demands for safety? Shouldn&#8217;t part of the danger of the police officer&#8217;s job be intercept the risk of harm to the citizen and the citizen&#8217;s property. They&#8217;re supposed to protect US! All of the rules protect THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ucrwaford:

The dog was &lt;i&gt;inside&lt;/i&gt; the apartment.    Do you normally keep your dog tied up inside your house when you are home, or do you just tie it up before answering the doorbell?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ucrwaford:</p>
<p>The dog was <i>inside</i> the apartment.    Do you normally keep your dog tied up inside your house when you are home, or do you just tie it up before answering the doorbell?</p>
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		<title>By: FTPolice</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/15/puppycide-12/comment-page-1/#comment-69491</link>
		<dc:creator>FTPolice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The dog shouldn&#039;t need to be tied up, it was in the lady&#039;s home, not in a back yard.  They intruded on her and grabbed her arm when she answered the door.  Takes a real man to murder a dog that isn&#039;t causing any trouble.  Thugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dog shouldn&#8217;t need to be tied up, it was in the lady&#8217;s home, not in a back yard.  They intruded on her and grabbed her arm when she answered the door.  Takes a real man to murder a dog that isn&#8217;t causing any trouble.  Thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: volney</title>
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		<dc:creator>volney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Police are certainly wrong in any case where the dog is not a direct, active threat to the officer or his ability to carry out his ostensible duty.  Cops do that because they can.  Full stop.  Because they can.  It is at least cowardly and swinish, but their precious pink asses are obviously more important than any citizen&#039;s beloved dog.  And &quot;puppycide&quot; is inexcuseably flip, there, sonny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police are certainly wrong in any case where the dog is not a direct, active threat to the officer or his ability to carry out his ostensible duty.  Cops do that because they can.  Full stop.  Because they can.  It is at least cowardly and swinish, but their precious pink asses are obviously more important than any citizen&#8217;s beloved dog.  And &#8220;puppycide&#8221; is inexcuseably flip, there, sonny.</p>
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		<title>By: UCrawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>UCrawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The $64,000 question is, was the dog tied up (article doesn&#039;t say) and if not was it actually threatening the officers?  While I&#039;m certainly not in favor of aggressive police procedures, I&#039;d also suggest that we should perhaps not take the word of somebody who admitted to being involved in a domestic dispute to the point where she needed to be handcuffed (the article indicates she&#039;s not suing over that) at face value.  Particularly since she&#039;s suing the city and has an incentive to embellish her side of the story.  If the St. Bernard was threatening the officers, they had cause to defend themselves.

I will say that no mention of shots fired in the police report is extremely suspicious, though.  The police may very well be wrong, but we also haven&#039;t heard their side of it so it&#039;s probably a bit unfair to pass judgment so quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The $64,000 question is, was the dog tied up (article doesn&#8217;t say) and if not was it actually threatening the officers?  While I&#8217;m certainly not in favor of aggressive police procedures, I&#8217;d also suggest that we should perhaps not take the word of somebody who admitted to being involved in a domestic dispute to the point where she needed to be handcuffed (the article indicates she&#8217;s not suing over that) at face value.  Particularly since she&#8217;s suing the city and has an incentive to embellish her side of the story.  If the St. Bernard was threatening the officers, they had cause to defend themselves.</p>
<p>I will say that no mention of shots fired in the police report is extremely suspicious, though.  The police may very well be wrong, but we also haven&#8217;t heard their side of it so it&#8217;s probably a bit unfair to pass judgment so quickly.</p>
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