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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Sims</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52407</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 04:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brooke, just doing my part to keep your legacy as a guest-blogger alive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brooke, just doing my part to keep your legacy as a guest-blogger alive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52406</link>
		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so proud to have started the &quot;...after all, JTK is still paying his taxes&quot; thing.  Way to keep it alive, gang.

Radley, I missed Brit Hume--but I hear if you tell him he&#039;s pretty he&#039;s like putty in your hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so proud to have started the &#8220;&#8230;after all, JTK is still paying his taxes&#8221; thing.  Way to keep it alive, gang.</p>
<p>Radley, I missed Brit Hume&#8211;but I hear if you tell him he&#8217;s pretty he&#8217;s like putty in your hands.</p>
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		<title>By: John H.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52405</link>
		<dc:creator>John H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADDENDUM:

I admit I skimmed through your text, so if this is just an issue of me missing something, then don&#039;t bother to answer.</description>
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<p>I admit I skimmed through your text, so if this is just an issue of me missing something, then don&#8217;t bother to answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52404</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTK:

Interesting (if murky) articles.  I do have a comment or two...

Despite your arguments, all of the articles you linked to throughout this comment section have said pretty much the same thing:

&lt;i&gt;Rational Evangelism Won&#039;t Work&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;So how can we win this game? / We can&#039;t.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;The Problem Of Political Irrationality&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;It&#039;s fruitless to attempt to persuade most people to use better judgment .... It was always too late for a political solution .... [It] cannot be addressed by political means.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;The Revolution Will Be All Business&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;Forget movements.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Economic Secession&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;So forget persuasion and implement economic privacy.&quot;

In all of them, you seem to state that &quot;this is what needs to be done&quot; without actually stating how to do it.  You obviously don&#039;t like Radley&#039;s soft-touch, career-keeping approach; you don&#039;t favor trying to pursuade people with rational arguments and political movements; and you don&#039;t seem to think very highly of the public (I admit I have my doubts as well...) adopting it without stemming their choices.

However, you say we need to (paraphrased): &quot;implement economic privacy,&quot; &quot;start a new game,&quot; and &quot;introduce agencies which can reap rewards for protecting individuals from the penalties of government.&quot;  Yet you offer no actual way to do this, it&#039;s all in a sort of vacuum discussion.  How do we implement economic privacy?  What agencies are you talking about?  And what kind of business would &quot;enable their clients to defect from government without penalty&quot;?  It all seems to be spoken in this aggressive, assertory prose without actual solutions present, only the middle-point in something that never began.  Perhaps I&#039;m simply misreading what you&#039;re trying to get across, but the points seem a little lost to me.


John
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTK:</p>
<p>Interesting (if murky) articles.  I do have a comment or two&#8230;</p>
<p>Despite your arguments, all of the articles you linked to throughout this comment section have said pretty much the same thing:</p>
<p><i>Rational Evangelism Won&#8217;t Work</i>: &#8220;So how can we win this game? / We can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>The Problem Of Political Irrationality</i>: &#8220;It&#8217;s fruitless to attempt to persuade most people to use better judgment &#8230;. It was always too late for a political solution &#8230;. [It] cannot be addressed by political means.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>The Revolution Will Be All Business</i>: &#8220;Forget movements.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Economic Secession</i>: &#8220;So forget persuasion and implement economic privacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>In all of them, you seem to state that &#8220;this is what needs to be done&#8221; without actually stating how to do it.  You obviously don&#8217;t like Radley&#8217;s soft-touch, career-keeping approach; you don&#8217;t favor trying to pursuade people with rational arguments and political movements; and you don&#8217;t seem to think very highly of the public (I admit I have my doubts as well&#8230;) adopting it without stemming their choices.</p>
<p>However, you say we need to (paraphrased): &#8220;implement economic privacy,&#8221; &#8220;start a new game,&#8221; and &#8220;introduce agencies which can reap rewards for protecting individuals from the penalties of government.&#8221;  Yet you offer no actual way to do this, it&#8217;s all in a sort of vacuum discussion.  How do we implement economic privacy?  What agencies are you talking about?  And what kind of business would &#8220;enable their clients to defect from government without penalty&#8221;?  It all seems to be spoken in this aggressive, assertory prose without actual solutions present, only the middle-point in something that never began.  Perhaps I&#8217;m simply misreading what you&#8217;re trying to get across, but the points seem a little lost to me.</p>
<p>John<br />
narphonax.com/blog</p>
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		<title>By: Libertas Infinitus</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52403</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertas Infinitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52402</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertas,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I read what you linked, but found no solution presented to the dilemma.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Just what is your game?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=242&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Revolution Will Be All Business&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=395&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Economic Secession.

&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertas,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I read what you linked, but found no solution presented to the dilemma.</i></p>
<p><i>Just what is your game?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=242" rel="nofollow">The Revolution Will Be All Business</a> and <a href="http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=395" rel="nofollow">Economic Secession.</p>
<p></a></p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52401</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

How does paying taxes make me a hypocrite? I don&#039;t tell anyone they should prefer jail to paying ransom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>How does paying taxes make me a hypocrite? I don&#8217;t tell anyone they should prefer jail to paying ransom.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertas Infinitus</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52400</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertas Infinitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTK,
I read what you linked, but found no solution presented to the dilemma.

Just what is your game?

Or does talking about it contribute to its defeat?

Yes... like Fight Club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTK,<br />
I read what you linked, but found no solution presented to the dilemma.</p>
<p>Just what is your game?</p>
<p>Or does talking about it contribute to its defeat?</p>
<p>Yes&#8230; like Fight Club.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Durden</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52399</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My methods are working fine, I&#039;m just not playing what you think is the only game in town. I&#039;m narrowcasting for a handful of individuals capable of grasping just how fruitless a pursuit that is. Because they have better things to do.&lt;/i&gt;

The first rule of Fight Club is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My methods are working fine, I&#8217;m just not playing what you think is the only game in town. I&#8217;m narrowcasting for a handful of individuals capable of grasping just how fruitless a pursuit that is. Because they have better things to do.</i></p>
<p>The first rule of Fight Club is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52398</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&#039;political spin&#039; or not, the important thing to remember is: John T. Kennedy STILL has to pay taxes!!&lt;/i&gt;

No, the important thing to remember is that JTK still chooses to pay taxes. That is, he is a hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8216;political spin&#8217; or not, the important thing to remember is: John T. Kennedy STILL has to pay taxes!!</i></p>
<p>No, the important thing to remember is that JTK still chooses to pay taxes. That is, he is a hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52397</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I read your No Treason post on this subject, and I&#039;m having trouble determining your motivation.&lt;/i&gt;

Believe it or not, my primary concern here is for Radley. Another policy wonk (...ah, how to phrase this?) &lt;i&gt;seasoning&lt;/i&gt; the soup isn&#039;t even worthy of comment, except for the fact that this particular one is capable of doing so much better.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I assume that you&#039;d like to persuade others to your point of view, but your methods yield an opposite outcome.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not interested in persuading the masses of anything. I explain why in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.no-treason.com/Kennedy/2.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rational Evangelism Won&#039;t Work&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.no-treason.com/comments.php?id=502_0_1_0_C&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Problem Of Political Irrationality&lt;/a&gt;.

My methods are working fine, I&#039;m just not playing what you think is the only game in town. I&#039;m narrowcasting for a handful of individuals capable of grasping just how fruitless a pursuit that is. Because they have better things to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I read your No Treason post on this subject, and I&#8217;m having trouble determining your motivation.</i></p>
<p>Believe it or not, my primary concern here is for Radley. Another policy wonk (&#8230;ah, how to phrase this?) <i>seasoning</i> the soup isn&#8217;t even worthy of comment, except for the fact that this particular one is capable of doing so much better.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I assume that you&#8217;d like to persuade others to your point of view, but your methods yield an opposite outcome.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in persuading the masses of anything. I explain why in <a href="http://www.no-treason.com/Kennedy/2.php" rel="nofollow">Rational Evangelism Won&#8217;t Work</a> and <a href="http://www.no-treason.com/comments.php?id=502_0_1_0_C" rel="nofollow">The Problem Of Political Irrationality</a>.</p>
<p>My methods are working fine, I&#8217;m just not playing what you think is the only game in town. I&#8217;m narrowcasting for a handful of individuals capable of grasping just how fruitless a pursuit that is. Because they have better things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52396</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Liberty is lost and gained a fragment at a time, and whether we like it or not, liberty yields when we demand all or nothing.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

If forty years&#039; history of &lt;i&gt;abject failure&lt;/i&gt; at pansy-nibbling around the edges of &lt;i&gt;principles&lt;/i&gt; hasn&#039;t refuted this sort of ridiculous nonsense, then nothing will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Liberty is lost and gained a fragment at a time, and whether we like it or not, liberty yields when we demand all or nothing.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>If forty years&#8217; history of <i>abject failure</i> at pansy-nibbling around the edges of <i>principles</i> hasn&#8217;t refuted this sort of ridiculous nonsense, then nothing will.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieffer</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52395</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTK, 

I read your No Treason post on this subject, and I&#039;m having trouble determining your motivation. I assume that you&#039;d like to persuade others to your point of view, but your methods yield an opposite outcome.

If you&#039;re simply trying to win a &quot;most anti-state&quot; contest that&#039;s fine, I&#039;ll send you a little ribbon, but understand that you haven&#039;t really gained anything.

Liberty is lost and gained a fragment at a time, and whether we like it or not, liberty yields when we demand all or nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTK, </p>
<p>I read your No Treason post on this subject, and I&#8217;m having trouble determining your motivation. I assume that you&#8217;d like to persuade others to your point of view, but your methods yield an opposite outcome.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re simply trying to win a &#8220;most anti-state&#8221; contest that&#8217;s fine, I&#8217;ll send you a little ribbon, but understand that you haven&#8217;t really gained anything.</p>
<p>Liberty is lost and gained a fragment at a time, and whether we like it or not, liberty yields when we demand all or nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: No Treason</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52408</link>
		<dc:creator>No Treason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Republicans Frighten Radley&lt;/strong&gt;

I just saw Radley Balko on Fox News saying he was &quot;frightened&quot; to see that Republicans think that exercising control over the food you put in your mouth was a 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Republicans Frighten Radley</strong></p>
<p>I just saw Radley Balko on Fox News saying he was &#8220;frightened&#8221; to see that Republicans think that exercising control over the food you put in your mouth was a</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Seals</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52394</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Seals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, Radley, on all the great appearances you&#039;ve had recently.  I&#039;m upset that I wasn&#039;t around a TV on Saturday night to see you on CNN.  I couldn&#039;t find a clip on Cato.  Are you thinking about starting an archive of your own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, Radley, on all the great appearances you&#8217;ve had recently.  I&#8217;m upset that I wasn&#8217;t around a TV on Saturday night to see you on CNN.  I couldn&#8217;t find a clip on Cato.  Are you thinking about starting an archive of your own?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sims</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52393</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;political spin&#039; or not, the important thing to remember is: John T. Kennedy &lt;b&gt;STILL&lt;/b&gt; has to pay taxes!!

Please keep this in mind as you go through your day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;political spin&#8217; or not, the important thing to remember is: John T. Kennedy <b>STILL</b> has to pay taxes!!</p>
<p>Please keep this in mind as you go through your day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52392</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw you on Fox news. I can&#039;t recall seeing such &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.no-treason.com/weblog.php?id=P807&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gratuitous political spin&lt;/a&gt; from a Cato analyst. Maybe you could yell &quot;GO BLUE STATES!&quot; at the end of each interview. You don&#039;t want to be too subtle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw you on Fox news. I can&#8217;t recall seeing such <a href="http://www.no-treason.com/weblog.php?id=P807" rel="nofollow">gratuitous political spin</a> from a Cato analyst. Maybe you could yell &#8220;GO BLUE STATES!&#8221; at the end of each interview. You don&#8217;t want to be too subtle.</p>
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		<title>By: Danno49</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/19/cnbc/comment-page-1/#comment-52391</link>
		<dc:creator>Danno49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wear your gold tie and use some cream to reduce that razor burn.

= :)</description>
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<p>= :)</p>
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