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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Spicy Shrimp</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/08/the-free-trade-president-2/comment-page-1/#comment-51562</link>
		<dc:creator>Spicy Shrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your arguments for wanting cheaper shrimp at the price of hardworking Americans are ridiculous. Get your lazy selves off your computers and realize that some people actually have to do manual labor for a living.  You indeed sound like you miss Bill Clinton, who else could really stick it to honest working Americans?  Do you buy Made-In-China American flags too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your arguments for wanting cheaper shrimp at the price of hardworking Americans are ridiculous. Get your lazy selves off your computers and realize that some people actually have to do manual labor for a living.  You indeed sound like you miss Bill Clinton, who else could really stick it to honest working Americans?  Do you buy Made-In-China American flags too?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Shrimper has no chance at all!It&#039;s a Dieing thing here in the States!Thanx alot for the trade!I must say tho::FRIENDS--Dont Let Friends EAT IMPORTED SHRIMP!!!!!God Bless The American Shrimpers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Shrimper has no chance at all!It&#8217;s a Dieing thing here in the States!Thanx alot for the trade!I must say tho::FRIENDS&#8211;Dont Let Friends EAT IMPORTED SHRIMP!!!!!God Bless The American Shrimpers!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While import prices have plummeted to record lows, consumer prices are up as much as 28 percent,&quot; he said. &quot;The only U.S. groups benefiting from dumped shrimp are the middlemen.&quot;

He said the American Seafood Distributors Association feel threatened because they have reaped enormous profits from dumped imports and would rather that the shrimping industry be destroyed than see their ever-expanding profit margins interrupted, having extracted $4.2 billion above normal profits from U.S. consumers in 2002.

These are the same people (ASDA) that are trying to tell you that consumers will pay a higher price for shrimp....Give me a break.  Fisherman are currently averaging between 65 and 95 cents a pound for shrimp as of 7/21/04.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While import prices have plummeted to record lows, consumer prices are up as much as 28 percent,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The only U.S. groups benefiting from dumped shrimp are the middlemen.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said the American Seafood Distributors Association feel threatened because they have reaped enormous profits from dumped imports and would rather that the shrimping industry be destroyed than see their ever-expanding profit margins interrupted, having extracted $4.2 billion above normal profits from U.S. consumers in 2002.</p>
<p>These are the same people (ASDA) that are trying to tell you that consumers will pay a higher price for shrimp&#8230;.Give me a break.  Fisherman are currently averaging between 65 and 95 cents a pound for shrimp as of 7/21/04.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooooo...that&#039;s a lot of money.  i&#039;m gonna sign up. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooooo&#8230;that&#8217;s a lot of money.  i&#8217;m gonna sign up. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/08/the-free-trade-president-2/comment-page-1/#comment-51558</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh now, the &#039;Nigerian&#039; scam is hitting blogs now?!  Great :(

July 12th, 2004 - the days spam hit my favorite blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh now, the &#8216;Nigerian&#8217; scam is hitting blogs now?!  Great :(</p>
<p>July 12th, 2004 &#8211; the days spam hit my favorite blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear  ,

I am Barrister AlhBello , a solicitor at law, personal attorney to Mr B . J ., a national Of your country,who used to work as a contractor  in Lome Togo. Here in after shall be referred to as my client. On the 30th of April 2000, my client, were involved in a car accident along Kpalime express Road. 
 
All occupants of the vehicle unfortunately lost there lives. Since then I have made several enquiries here to locate any of my clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful attempts,I decided to search through with his name which motivated me to contact you, to locate any member of his family hence I contacted you.I have contacted you to assist in repartrating the fund valued at US$20.5 million left behind by my client before it gets confisicated or declared unserviceable by the Security Finance Firm(bank) where this huge amount were deposited. 
 
The said  Security Finance Company has issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have his account confisicated within the next twenty one official working days Since I have been unsuccesfull in locating the  relatives for over 2years now, I seek the consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased since you have the same last names, so that the proceeds of this account can be paid to you.Therefore, on receipt of your positive response, we shall then discuss the sharing ratio and modalities for transfer.
I have all necessary information and legal documents needed to back you up for claim. All I require from you is your honest cooperation to enable us see this transaction goes through and for more details.
KINDLY GIVE ME A SHORT CALL AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS MAIL. TELEPHONE  NUMBER. 00228 924 20 80
    
 
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   LOME TOGO WEST AFRICA
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear  ,</p>
<p>I am Barrister AlhBello , a solicitor at law, personal attorney to Mr B . J ., a national Of your country,who used to work as a contractor  in Lome Togo. Here in after shall be referred to as my client. On the 30th of April 2000, my client, were involved in a car accident along Kpalime express Road. </p>
<p>All occupants of the vehicle unfortunately lost there lives. Since then I have made several enquiries here to locate any of my clients extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful attempts,I decided to search through with his name which motivated me to contact you, to locate any member of his family hence I contacted you.I have contacted you to assist in repartrating the fund valued at US$20.5 million left behind by my client before it gets confisicated or declared unserviceable by the Security Finance Firm(bank) where this huge amount were deposited. </p>
<p>The said  Security Finance Company has issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have his account confisicated within the next twenty one official working days Since I have been unsuccesfull in locating the  relatives for over 2years now, I seek the consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased since you have the same last names, so that the proceeds of this account can be paid to you.Therefore, on receipt of your positive response, we shall then discuss the sharing ratio and modalities for transfer.<br />
I have all necessary information and legal documents needed to back you up for claim. All I require from you is your honest cooperation to enable us see this transaction goes through and for more details.<br />
KINDLY GIVE ME A SHORT CALL AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS MAIL. TELEPHONE  NUMBER. 00228 924 20 80</p>
<p>Marrital status&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Age&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
phone number.. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
fax number&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Best regards.<br />
FROM BARRISTER ALH BELLO<br />
 ROYAL CHAMBER LOME TOGO<br />
   LOME TOGO WEST AFRICA<br />
    TELEPHONE  NUMBER. 00228 924 20 80</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case is not about Free Trade its about &quot;dumping&quot; which is a clear violation fo Free Trade.  The dumpers and their associates have wiped out one of the largest industries on the Gulf Coast of this country and something had to be done to rectify it.  Just because Bush did it does not make it wrong, he took the right position on this one,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is not about Free Trade its about &#8220;dumping&#8221; which is a clear violation fo Free Trade.  The dumpers and their associates have wiped out one of the largest industries on the Gulf Coast of this country and something had to be done to rectify it.  Just because Bush did it does not make it wrong, he took the right position on this one,</p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, this kind of protectionism hurts both US and the foreigners. US customers buy more expensive shrimps and US shrimp farmers should be doing something else (improving the industry or moving on).

This is a text-book example on the dumping fallacy. One of the best article on this fallacy is on mises.org: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1551&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1551&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, this kind of protectionism hurts both US and the foreigners. US customers buy more expensive shrimps and US shrimp farmers should be doing something else (improving the industry or moving on).</p>
<p>This is a text-book example on the dumping fallacy. One of the best article on this fallacy is on mises.org: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1551" rel="nofollow">http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1551</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking, we should trust the free market credentials of the guy who has campaigned for months on a populist message that Bush &#039;isn&#039;t doing enough for American workers&#039;?

Or should we be reassured by his running-mate who campaigned for the nomination on the basis that even Kerry wasn&#039;t going far enough in challenging the free market?

Bush&#039;s record on trading regulations is less than adequate, but I attribute a good part of that to an effort to head off a democratic rush for the moral low ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking, we should trust the free market credentials of the guy who has campaigned for months on a populist message that Bush &#8216;isn&#8217;t doing enough for American workers&#8217;?</p>
<p>Or should we be reassured by his running-mate who campaigned for the nomination on the basis that even Kerry wasn&#8217;t going far enough in challenging the free market?</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s record on trading regulations is less than adequate, but I attribute a good part of that to an effort to head off a democratic rush for the moral low ground.</p>
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		<title>By: the talking dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>the talking dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been pointed out that if we alone ended our ag subsidies, Africa, for example, would benefit by several orders of magnitude over what we send them now as &quot;foreign aid&quot;.  The African nations, in turn would then grow as markets for our other stuff-- the stuff we DON&#039;T have to protect and subsidize at the expense of our consumers and taxpayers-- the stuff that might generate, you know-- DECENT JOBS...

But last I looked, shrimpers in the USA tended to be piled up in the Gulf states... Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida...  something tells me the free market and not pissing off a sensitive trading partner would be more important if we were talking about New England scrod...

I think we can expect more protective tariffs as needed for the next troubled industry in Swing Vote-istan...  proponents of free trade should actually prefer Kerry&#039;s record to Bush&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been pointed out that if we alone ended our ag subsidies, Africa, for example, would benefit by several orders of magnitude over what we send them now as &#8220;foreign aid&#8221;.  The African nations, in turn would then grow as markets for our other stuff&#8211; the stuff we DON&#8217;T have to protect and subsidize at the expense of our consumers and taxpayers&#8211; the stuff that might generate, you know&#8211; DECENT JOBS&#8230;</p>
<p>But last I looked, shrimpers in the USA tended to be piled up in the Gulf states&#8230; Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida&#8230;  something tells me the free market and not pissing off a sensitive trading partner would be more important if we were talking about New England scrod&#8230;</p>
<p>I think we can expect more protective tariffs as needed for the next troubled industry in Swing Vote-istan&#8230;  proponents of free trade should actually prefer Kerry&#8217;s record to Bush&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/07/08/the-free-trade-president-2/comment-page-1/#comment-51551</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I still lean towards retaliatory trade measures when a foreign country subsidizes an industry with tax revenue, but that retaliation is only warranted if your own economy is a free market.&lt;/i&gt;

Your economy is not a free market if you impose &quot;retaliatory trade measures&quot;.

What most people never seem to get is that a government can only impose trade regulation on it&#039;s own citizens. When you impose a tarrif on shrimp you&#039;re hurting me, the consumer who wants less expensive shrimp, and you&#039;re hurting the people here who would get it to me. We&#039;re the ones the &quot;retaliatory trade measures&quot; fall upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I still lean towards retaliatory trade measures when a foreign country subsidizes an industry with tax revenue, but that retaliation is only warranted if your own economy is a free market.</i></p>
<p>Your economy is not a free market if you impose &#8220;retaliatory trade measures&#8221;.</p>
<p>What most people never seem to get is that a government can only impose trade regulation on it&#8217;s own citizens. When you impose a tarrif on shrimp you&#8217;re hurting me, the consumer who wants less expensive shrimp, and you&#8217;re hurting the people here who would get it to me. We&#8217;re the ones the &#8220;retaliatory trade measures&#8221; fall upon.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I miss Bill Clinton.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Doesn&#039;t that tell you you&#039;re investing too much hope in politics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I miss Bill Clinton.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that tell you you&#8217;re investing too much hope in politics?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnHays.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnHays.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sounds fishy to me&lt;/strong&gt;

The Agitator brings up the subject of shrimp tariffs.   The following are excerpts.


The Commerce Department ruled that Vietnam is too loose with its government shrimp subsidies and, therefore, is selling shrimp in the U.S. at artificially low cos...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sounds fishy to me</strong></p>
<p>The Agitator brings up the subject of shrimp tariffs.   The following are excerpts.</p>
<p>The Commerce Department ruled that Vietnam is too loose with its government shrimp subsidies and, therefore, is selling shrimp in the U.S. at artificially low cos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Casebolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Casebolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard -- Thanks for bringing up the points you did!  I have to agree with you about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advantexcom.net/~cbolt/levels.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;localization of authority,&lt;/a&gt; including &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advantexcom.net/~cbolt/taxes.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the funding -- I called it it &quot;Truth in Taxation&quot; &lt;/a&gt; a while back.

And Ann, you are spot on about the Enron mess starting on Clinton&#039;s watch ... the problem is, the wealthists are blind to that fact.  I don&#039;t know if he did have anything to do with that ... but still, somebody should call Michael Moore and let him cherry-pick THIS!

Let him look into Loral, too.

I was out at Halliburtion HQ earlier today, and I find it interesting that the Leftists protesting there have fewer signs regarding the &quot;war for oil&quot; meme ... guess that doesn&#039;t resonate as much since we turned Iraq back over to its people.

Of course, they might not like the sign I was carrying as I walked behind them, then past them along Belt Line Road ...

HELP!  I&#039;M SURROUNDED BY AMERICA-HATING IDIOTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard &#8212; Thanks for bringing up the points you did!  I have to agree with you about <a href="http://www.advantexcom.net/~cbolt/levels.htm" rel="nofollow">localization of authority,</a> including <a href="http://www.advantexcom.net/~cbolt/taxes.htm" rel="nofollow">the funding &#8212; I called it it &#8220;Truth in Taxation&#8221; </a> a while back.</p>
<p>And Ann, you are spot on about the Enron mess starting on Clinton&#8217;s watch &#8230; the problem is, the wealthists are blind to that fact.  I don&#8217;t know if he did have anything to do with that &#8230; but still, somebody should call Michael Moore and let him cherry-pick THIS!</p>
<p>Let him look into Loral, too.</p>
<p>I was out at Halliburtion HQ earlier today, and I find it interesting that the Leftists protesting there have fewer signs regarding the &#8220;war for oil&#8221; meme &#8230; guess that doesn&#8217;t resonate as much since we turned Iraq back over to its people.</p>
<p>Of course, they might not like the sign I was carrying as I walked behind them, then past them along Belt Line Road &#8230;</p>
<p>HELP!  I&#8217;M SURROUNDED BY AMERICA-HATING IDIOTS!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I miss about Clinton are the good old days of rampant corporate corruption.  Enron did great under slick Willy, as long as they paid (remember that contract in India? remember how the Kyoto treaty was just what Enron wanted?).  People conveniently assume that the only reason Enron cooked the books in 1999 was because Bush took office in 2001.  It couldn&#039;t possibly be linked to Enron&#039;s bribes to Clinton a few years earlier - the timing&#039;s all wrong.

As for reinstating farm subsidies that Clinton was phasing out - I&#039;m totally against all the farm subsidies, but announcing big payouts now combined with a phase-out of future subsidies is an old Washington trick that the farmers never take seriously.  Whenever one of these deals has been announced, if you ask farmers &quot;aren&#039;t you worried?  in a few years, the subsidies will be gone!&quot; they just shrug and say &quot;the phase-outs never happen&quot;.  It&#039;s not right, but it&#039;s a distortion to blame the whole game on Bush and pretend that the reinstatement wasn&#039;t expected all along under Clinton and wouldn&#039;t have happened under Gore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I miss about Clinton are the good old days of rampant corporate corruption.  Enron did great under slick Willy, as long as they paid (remember that contract in India? remember how the Kyoto treaty was just what Enron wanted?).  People conveniently assume that the only reason Enron cooked the books in 1999 was because Bush took office in 2001.  It couldn&#8217;t possibly be linked to Enron&#8217;s bribes to Clinton a few years earlier &#8211; the timing&#8217;s all wrong.</p>
<p>As for reinstating farm subsidies that Clinton was phasing out &#8211; I&#8217;m totally against all the farm subsidies, but announcing big payouts now combined with a phase-out of future subsidies is an old Washington trick that the farmers never take seriously.  Whenever one of these deals has been announced, if you ask farmers &#8220;aren&#8217;t you worried?  in a few years, the subsidies will be gone!&#8221; they just shrug and say &#8220;the phase-outs never happen&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not right, but it&#8217;s a distortion to blame the whole game on Bush and pretend that the reinstatement wasn&#8217;t expected all along under Clinton and wouldn&#8217;t have happened under Gore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Paus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Paus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I miss Bill Clinton too. I miss those tax increases the most. I miss the 200 dollar haircut while he parked Air Force One at LAX. I miss those great Supreme Court picks. I miss turning the Lincoln Bedroom into a Motel 6. I miss the 4 day bombing of Iraq to cover up Monica-gate. I miss Monica-gate, now that I mention it. It was a lot more interesting then Abu Gharib thrown in my face. Good times man, good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I miss Bill Clinton too. I miss those tax increases the most. I miss the 200 dollar haircut while he parked Air Force One at LAX. I miss those great Supreme Court picks. I miss turning the Lincoln Bedroom into a Motel 6. I miss the 4 day bombing of Iraq to cover up Monica-gate. I miss Monica-gate, now that I mention it. It was a lot more interesting then Abu Gharib thrown in my face. Good times man, good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Dani, subsidies creep upwards because they&#039;re a vote winner. It&#039;s the old pork-barrel problem. If you channel small quantities of money from a large number of people to give large quantities of money to a small number of people, then the large number of people barely notice, while the small number of people absolutely love you. There&#039;s no sane reason why $200 million was spent on a bridge between two innocuous little towns in Alaska, but by securing it, the senator made himself very popular with the state, and assured their votes while $200 million off the Federal budget was barely noticed.

The only solution is to localise decision making to the area affected. If Alaskans want infrastructure, Alaskan taxes should pay for it. If Washington shrimp farmers want subsidy, then Washington taxes should pay for it. That way tax payers in those regions really feel the pain of subsidising public spending, while citizens of states which choose not to subsidise enjoy much lower taxes. The only tax and spend policies of central government should be those which affect the country as a whole (defence, for example).

I have a hunch we&#039;d see lower taxes across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Dani, subsidies creep upwards because they&#8217;re a vote winner. It&#8217;s the old pork-barrel problem. If you channel small quantities of money from a large number of people to give large quantities of money to a small number of people, then the large number of people barely notice, while the small number of people absolutely love you. There&#8217;s no sane reason why $200 million was spent on a bridge between two innocuous little towns in Alaska, but by securing it, the senator made himself very popular with the state, and assured their votes while $200 million off the Federal budget was barely noticed.</p>
<p>The only solution is to localise decision making to the area affected. If Alaskans want infrastructure, Alaskan taxes should pay for it. If Washington shrimp farmers want subsidy, then Washington taxes should pay for it. That way tax payers in those regions really feel the pain of subsidising public spending, while citizens of states which choose not to subsidise enjoy much lower taxes. The only tax and spend policies of central government should be those which affect the country as a whole (defence, for example).</p>
<p>I have a hunch we&#8217;d see lower taxes across the board.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard, thank you for the explanation. So basically, subsidies are what I thought they were. I just didn&#039;t want to believe my suspicions, that we are ass-backward and confused in this so-called capitalistic country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard, thank you for the explanation. So basically, subsidies are what I thought they were. I just didn&#8217;t want to believe my suspicions, that we are ass-backward and confused in this so-called capitalistic country.</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The irony fairy is jumping up and down on your shoulder staring you in the face and laughing her little pink ass off.&quot;

I&#039;ll have to remember that one :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The irony fairy is jumping up and down on your shoulder staring you in the face and laughing her little pink ass off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to remember that one :)</p>
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