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Tuesday, June 22nd, 2004It rocks.
In fact, I like the interface and spam filter so much, I’ve forwarded all of my email from this site to my Gmail account. And I imagine people like this guy will just continue to make it better, and more useful.
The guy who registered RadleyBalko@gmail.com also wrote me back, and said he did it to prevent someone from G-squatting me. Well, okay. Not sure that was really much of a threat. Unfortunately, I’ve already registered under a different username.
Thomas Friedman said that Google and Wifi are about as close as humans can get to God. If Google keeps mastering one realm of web life after another, Google just might become God.
Or, a less rosy scenario: too much continued success, and Google gets designated a public utility. Or subject to an antitrust suit.
Were I on Google’s board, I’d recommend an intentional, spectacular failure at some new venture. If only to put the EU bureaucrats, tech-inept congressmen and David Boieses of the world at ease.
But I digress. Have I mentioned that Gmail rocks?
Yeah,
I’ve had it for just about 2 months now and i’ve gotten all of ONE peice of spam.
Oh. And I posted on here a day or two back that I had invites - well that is no longer true. They are used up (until the next round of invites) —
a NOTE to anyone - if you invite someone using a Yahoo address - Yahoo sends said invite to your spam folder (thus two people i invited won’t be using it at present) - i’ve heard that Hotmail does the same but i have to proof to back that one up.
anyway welcome Radley - try to use your new found power for the forces of good, not evil…
cogswell
Damnit! When will gmail be available to the rest of us? Why must Google torture me with visions of what might be.
Thomas Friedman is full of crap, even when I agree with him.
Google is grreeeat.
Now the government only has to monitor ONE computer network to keep a watchful eye on us.
PJ,
Is that a hint of narcissism I detect? Uh oh. It looks like you need some medication. Well, why wait to find out? Get in line for Bush’s new mandatory mental illness screening today! We can have you set up with a whole mini-bar of drugs by noon tomorrow! Prozac! Ritalin! Valium! Hurrah! [note: Bush's mandatory mental illness screening program, and its subsequent direct connection to various drugs, was in no way influenced by Bush's corporate pharmaceutical cronies. No, really!]
Noone invited me.
I’m not feeling the love people.
Radley -
I hope when your first rounds of Gmail invites come around, you will remember your longtime readers.
A federal antitrust lawsuit is still about a decade away given current regulatory trends. An EU action is more likely, though I would bet on the superstate trying to regulate Google as a utility first. Private antitrust lawsuits are a given, and once a federal appellate court invents a theory to allow such a case to proceed (Judge Posner on the Seventh Circuit is always willing to help a new antitrust theory along), all bets are off.
Damn you, Frank N! If only I were one minute earlier.
Everybody knows that the secret to winning at Monopoly is getting the railroads and utilities.
Still no invite for me. How’d you do it, Radley? Do you know someone at everyone’s favorite Mountain View-based company?
I have 2 invites left, and since a kindly stranger was nice enough to give me one originally, I’ll pass on the favor. E-mail me at the below address. Can you feel the Gmail love?
The launch of gmail corresponded with a great upgrade to yahoo’s mail. Who said markets don’t work?
I feel the Gmail love, of course at 18 minutes ago it is more like a subtle breeze feeling.
This invite only crap is pissing me off. For me, the success of any free-mail is simple. If I get my favorite spelling as an address, I use it. If not, I don’t. Even if I get my cherished e-mail address, Gmail is squandering a lot of goodwill with this elitist soft-launch.
I just get to sit and stew while select individuals get a crack at my favorite e-mail address. I can forgive the content-based advertisements, but I may never be able to forgive being made to wait like an ugly teen-aged girl for a date to the prom.
I’ll go to the prom with you.
what’s all this about then?
http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
are they just pissed they didn’t get an invite, paranoid, or is it an oh -so -clever marketing attempt?
basically, should i be bothered i didn’t get a gmail invite?
I would like to thank Adrienne for the invite. Thank you.
Google isn’t going to open gmail to “everyone” anytime soon. They are getting too much information about population connections and viral marketing from the data on who invites who and who uses the invites to open an account, and who uses the accounts extensively when they open it.
Both invites are gone. Also, to the whiny babies who don’t like the “elitist soft-launch” Gmail approach, did you ever consider that, besides wanting to build buzz, the Google guys might not be ready to roll out this service to millions of people yet?
rvman is right re: google’s motivations.
google’s downfall is going to be too many people believing in its infallibility.
my love affair with google ended when i had to start going to page 4 and 5 of search results to find good information on popular search subjects (like market information in various cities). try a search for real estate information someplace in BFE and the first 25 results will be feeder info linking to boilerplate sites.
i switched to Yahoo briefly but then noticed their dirty little bots probing my ports everytime i tried to access a subdirectory.
so i switched back to google because it wasn’t the other guy.
My thanks to Adrienne for the invite. I feel like such an elitist snob. I’m also going to start acting like one. =
These g-mail haters on the ‘g-mail is creepy’ site seem like nothing more than an off-shoot of the Penguinistas. Picture a lot of pimply-faced 30+ year-olds with nothing better to do than over analyze technology and post their concerns, some legit and most of them not. Who cares if they send you ads? Don’t use it for business, dumb asses or better yet . . . don’t use it at all. And to refuse my e-mail because I sent it from a gmail account is nothing more than thumbing your nose without a real reason. Get the hell over it.
Hmm. Well, after giving out my last two invites on tuesday… i wake up this morning and notice that 6 more area awaiting me. Woo Woo.
At current typing there are still 3 left… (hint hint nod nod)
the “offical” reason that the system isn’t open to the public yet is because it is still in beta testing. And… if it was free to all then there wouldn’t be this buzz about it. You only desire what you can’t have…
Unless you desire Simon and Garfunkel.
“Why don’t you write me…”
Bryan -
I want to feel like a snob too! Invite away??
Maybe I’m just not familiar enough with gmail, but I don’t get what’s supposed to be so great about it. From Google:
Use Google search to find the exact message you want, no matter when it was sent or received.
1000 megabytes of free storage so you’ll never need to delete another message.
Each message is grouped with all its replies and displayed as a conversation.
You see only relevant text ads and links to related web pages of interest.
My email program already has a search facility, I have a hard drive bigger than 1GB, I’ve been able to thread my email for ages, and my email doesn’t have any ads. So the appeal is…? I dunno, the interface looks interesting, but I really don’t quite see what it buys you that any other (halfway-decent) email program doesn’t. (Maybe that’s the problem…everyone’s using crap?)
Oh yes, and: “Gmail does not currently support your browser. See browser requirements for Gmail or sign in anyway.” “Browser requirements”? The only “browser requirement” there should be is “renders HTML”. Seeing as how Google has historically been really good about adhering to standards and being browser-agnostic, this looks like a step backwards.
Gmail
Radley Balko is raving about Gmail, and rightly so. Many bloggers are raving about it, partly because they were given
JD, I think that the appeal isn’t so much the features but the fact that it’s free. I’ve got gigs of space, too and so does just about everyone. But you have to pay for your space, bandwidth, e-mail program, etc. Here all you need is a web browser and you get 1GB of space. I have used a Yahoo account for years and gotten by with the paltry space they gave from the beginning. 6 meg I think it was. Imagine my surprise to logon one day last week and get . . . gasp! 100 MG! All free. How much you wanna bet the space gets used to store bigger attachments within e-mails? MP3 files and the like? That’s not what I’m planning on doing . . .;)
Yeah, I think it’s the fact that it’s virtually free, that’s the appeal IMO.
What browser, JD? Opera? Mozilla? Egad . . . dare I ask . . . AOSmell?
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If you’re unhappy that you haven’t received an invitation yet, you can buy one on ebay for $1.00
It’s not that very hard to get a GMail address. It took me about 30 mins to find someone who would send me an invite. Tip: go to the GMail Machine and then start talking/emailing to those who have donated invites before. They tend to have a lot to go around.
Of course, it helps to not just beg, but to offer something in return. Just be creative. There is a website that actually has created a barter system for invites.
In the end, it will evolve from Beta and then everyone will have one and then the big to-do shall be over. I mean, it’s just an email account. You don’t get paid for using it!
Ok if I have to ask for one, then I’m not being invited. And let’s face it, someone of my stature should not have to ‘ask’ for an invite.
I’m going to lunch. You have about an hour….or I unleash the Monkey Butlers of Hell.
See no reason to ‘ask’ for an invite, just threaten monkey violence.
Now where should I go for lunch?
Thanks to bryan, for being so generous with his gmail invites. I feel like a god among mere mortals, now that I have my very own gmail account…
Frank N - tyrannical leader of Monkey Butler society. Liberation for the monkey butlers!
Seriously, JD, what browser were you using? Also, your point about your email software and hard drive already doing all these things doesn’t account for the obvious advantage gMail has - it is web-based, and thus accessible from my home computer, my work computer, my Mom’s computer, the library, the coffeehouse…
Anyway, just wanted to complain here that gMail has been sluggish this past hour and now seems to be down altogether. Sure it happens to Hotmail all the time, but gMail is all shiny and new!
Well someone was kind (and smart) enough to step up and invite Frank N.
Ms.Dani - Talk of revolution is treasonous, be careful young lady.
people who blog at blogger get free gmail. wil wheaton is collecting gmails for the troops, which to me sounds like supporting striking hormel workers..misplaced good intentions.
i blogged earlier today [http://ballots.blogspot.com]that governments are not allknowing, allpowerful, or all good. neither is google, but with a corporate model of “don’t be evil”, a growing database of known stuff, a growing number of offshoots, it comes a lot closer than governments do. they can now wither away, as obsolete as the idea of the divine right of kings. google is doing its bit to bring on the singularity.
stellar evolution>biological evolution> cultural evolution> bio/machine interface evolution> the singularity.
it’s like the other end of a big bang.
it’s not god, but it’s pretty cool,and it’s within our lifetimes, unless one of us gets hit by a truck tomorrow.
once the singularity happens on one planet, the self-aware universe starts expanding at some fraction of the speed of light. sameer can explain this stuff more coherently than i can.
tyler cowan links to this thread with the label : word of theday: g-squatting.
Uh-huh… um, I’m going to go over there now… No, you stay here…
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