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	<title>Comments on: True Love Waits&#8230; Until the Adults Aren&#8217;t Looking</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dingle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Dingle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this Garth fellow is a little queer who just wants to bone plastic lawn animals.  Put it away.  In a perfect world your hand might have actually been a real woman.  But we can all have dreams I guess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this Garth fellow is a little queer who just wants to bone plastic lawn animals.  Put it away.  In a perfect world your hand might have actually been a real woman.  But we can all have dreams I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, I think I'm more in Ms. Dani's corner on this but you do make a very soid point.  My issue as the father of 2 georgeous little girls is the combination of sex ed in public schools with the hyper-sexation (can I be recognized as the first to say that?) of media, be it music video's, movies, video games clothing advertising (on and on) work hand in hand in creating a very slippery slope.  
When I was 11, 12, 13 I was playing baseball and catching snakes- I never really cared about anything to do with sex- sex was not brow-beaten into our skulls the way it is today.
I think most folks like me who romanticize about "the good old days" get shouted down by the lunatics preaching the message you are so eloquently stating here.  "OH SURE, lets go back to the 'Good old days' when sex was dirty and fags were beaten up and Uncle Jimmy raped little Suzi because she didn't know it was wrong" blah blah blah.  That isn't really the point.  To me the point is I don't want my kids thinking about sex until late into thier teens.  I realize thats probably unrealistic, but that's how I want it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, I think I&#8217;m more in Ms. Dani&#8217;s corner on this but you do make a very soid point.  My issue as the father of 2 georgeous little girls is the combination of sex ed in public schools with the hyper-sexation (can I be recognized as the first to say that?) of media, be it music video&#8217;s, movies, video games clothing advertising (on and on) work hand in hand in creating a very slippery slope.<br />
When I was 11, 12, 13 I was playing baseball and catching snakes- I never really cared about anything to do with sex- sex was not brow-beaten into our skulls the way it is today.<br />
I think most folks like me who romanticize about &#8220;the good old days&#8221; get shouted down by the lunatics preaching the message you are so eloquently stating here.  &#8220;OH SURE, lets go back to the &#8216;Good old days&#8217; when sex was dirty and fags were beaten up and Uncle Jimmy raped little Suzi because she didn&#8217;t know it was wrong&#8221; blah blah blah.  That isn&#8217;t really the point.  To me the point is I don&#8217;t want my kids thinking about sex until late into thier teens.  I realize thats probably unrealistic, but that&#8217;s how I want it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dani: If you can find me a child who, at 11 years old, is emotionally ready for the consequences of sex, I'd be very surprised.  But given that there are at least some 11 year olds whose bodies are physically mature enough to have sex, and given that some 11 year olds' parents are not teaching them the value of waiting until they are emotionally ready, and given that at least some of those 11 year olds are already having sex, I think they deserve to have information about how to protect themselves from disease and pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani: If you can find me a child who, at 11 years old, is emotionally ready for the consequences of sex, I&#8217;d be very surprised.  But given that there are at least some 11 year olds whose bodies are physically mature enough to have sex, and given that some 11 year olds&#8217; parents are not teaching them the value of waiting until they are emotionally ready, and given that at least some of those 11 year olds are already having sex, I think they deserve to have information about how to protect themselves from disease and pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that the people who teach abstinance only policies, are crap in bed!

So, they just don't want some 16 year old fucking like a beast and being better than they are (if the manage to get it up, that is).

And the old spinsters who don't fuck are jealous of the teenage slappers who give ten blowjobs per day.

But I do think there is an element of self-hatred and demand to dominate other peoples' lives here.

Especially from the moralistic bitches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the people who teach abstinance only policies, are crap in bed!</p>
<p>So, they just don&#8217;t want some 16 year old fucking like a beast and being better than they are (if the manage to get it up, that is).</p>
<p>And the old spinsters who don&#8217;t fuck are jealous of the teenage slappers who give ten blowjobs per day.</p>
<p>But I do think there is an element of self-hatred and demand to dominate other peoples&#8217; lives here.</p>
<p>Especially from the moralistic bitches!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that parents should teach their own children morals and values and such.
So you say the mature age to have sex is subjective dependent upon the child and his/her environment. Well, what if the child is mature enough at 11 to have sex. Would you consider that to be ok? Why do we have laws preventing adults from having sex with children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that parents should teach their own children morals and values and such.<br />
So you say the mature age to have sex is subjective dependent upon the child and his/her environment. Well, what if the child is mature enough at 11 to have sex. Would you consider that to be ok? Why do we have laws preventing adults from having sex with children?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dani: The point is that regardless of whether they are emotionally ready to have sex, there is a certain age when they are physically capable of having sex.  At that age, they should be given information about the physical aspects of sex.  It's up to parents to instill in their children the values to determine whether they are emotionally ready, because it's different for every person and for every family, depending on emotional maturity and moral values and such.  Schools should teach the physical so that they're prepared if and when they make the decision to have sex, now or in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani: The point is that regardless of whether they are emotionally ready to have sex, there is a certain age when they are physically capable of having sex.  At that age, they should be given information about the physical aspects of sex.  It&#8217;s up to parents to instill in their children the values to determine whether they are emotionally ready, because it&#8217;s different for every person and for every family, depending on emotional maturity and moral values and such.  Schools should teach the physical so that they&#8217;re prepared if and when they make the decision to have sex, now or in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, What is your idea of mature enough to begin having sex (not just learning about it) because that is what you incenuated in your previous post, that there is an age at which children become capable emotionally of having sex? How are you going to determine if your kids are mature enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, What is your idea of mature enough to begin having sex (not just learning about it) because that is what you incenuated in your previous post, that there is an age at which children become capable emotionally of having sex? How are you going to determine if your kids are mature enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

sorry for the anonymous post, different computer and forgot to set it up.

I appreciate your point, but from the stand point of actually lowering the rates of teenage pregnancy and disease, there is the ideal and realistic.  

Ideally, all parents would have truly effective discussions with their kids about sex at the appropiate times to keep them informed and safe.  Schools would not even address the issue and everything would work fine.

Realistically, any teacher that would tell your daughter about dildos or your son about homoerotic park visits are people that know that such discussion is over the line and will probably do so anyway, not needing school sex ed as an excuse.  They can have curriculum that is covered and not deviated from, that sticks with facts and not preferences. 

Realistically, you son or daughter is hearing the most explicit discussions imaginable from their friends.  Thinking that you can possibly be the first person to address the subject with your child, or that you could arrange to do it at the most appropriate time in their development is just kidding yourself.  Maybe you can pul it off, but you run the risk of not having your influences in their decision making when the time comes if you waited to long.  And information from their friends is often inaccurate, or complete falsehoods because they are trying to get your child to do something sexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>sorry for the anonymous post, different computer and forgot to set it up.</p>
<p>I appreciate your point, but from the stand point of actually lowering the rates of teenage pregnancy and disease, there is the ideal and realistic.  </p>
<p>Ideally, all parents would have truly effective discussions with their kids about sex at the appropiate times to keep them informed and safe.  Schools would not even address the issue and everything would work fine.</p>
<p>Realistically, any teacher that would tell your daughter about dildos or your son about homoerotic park visits are people that know that such discussion is over the line and will probably do so anyway, not needing school sex ed as an excuse.  They can have curriculum that is covered and not deviated from, that sticks with facts and not preferences. </p>
<p>Realistically, you son or daughter is hearing the most explicit discussions imaginable from their friends.  Thinking that you can possibly be the first person to address the subject with your child, or that you could arrange to do it at the most appropriate time in their development is just kidding yourself.  Maybe you can pul it off, but you run the risk of not having your influences in their decision making when the time comes if you waited to long.  And information from their friends is often inaccurate, or complete falsehoods because they are trying to get your child to do something sexual.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dani: Puberty.  When I say "mature" I mean it in the biological sense of the word.  We know the rough age at which puberty begins, and that's when kids should start getting information about how sex works, the potential risks, and ways to mitigate those risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani: Puberty.  When I say &#8220;mature&#8221; I mean it in the biological sense of the word.  We know the rough age at which puberty begins, and that&#8217;s when kids should start getting information about how sex works, the potential risks, and ways to mitigate those risks.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't say Sweeden was Puritanical in their attitudes toward sex... or at least I didn't mean to, or to even imply that.  I was trying to draw a line comparing attitudes toward sex in multi-media (TV, Music, movies etc.) as a possible rider to the reason their teen pregnancy rate is so low.  But I was corrected on that.
Amy I do agree with you in that some parents do not have the wherewithal to discuss this with their children.  Mine didn't.  The issue I have with this would be irresponsible sex ed.  Teaching more than part A goes into part B etc.  My problem is I guess what others here are calling moralising?  I take that to mean moralising extreme attitudes?  I don't know, I guess I just have a problem with government run institutions deciding the sex ed cirriculum for my children.  Where does the US rank with the world in our other public education endeavors?  Near, or at the bottom.  Why would anyone believe sex-ed wouldn't get just as f**d up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say Sweeden was Puritanical in their attitudes toward sex&#8230; or at least I didn&#8217;t mean to, or to even imply that.  I was trying to draw a line comparing attitudes toward sex in multi-media (TV, Music, movies etc.) as a possible rider to the reason their teen pregnancy rate is so low.  But I was corrected on that.<br />
Amy I do agree with you in that some parents do not have the wherewithal to discuss this with their children.  Mine didn&#8217;t.  The issue I have with this would be irresponsible sex ed.  Teaching more than part A goes into part B etc.  My problem is I guess what others here are calling moralising?  I take that to mean moralising extreme attitudes?  I don&#8217;t know, I guess I just have a problem with government run institutions deciding the sex ed cirriculum for my children.  Where does the US rank with the world in our other public education endeavors?  Near, or at the bottom.  Why would anyone believe sex-ed wouldn&#8217;t get just as f**d up?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, what is the "mature enough" age?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, what is the &#8220;mature enough&#8221; age?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronwyn:  You're lucky.  I was about 10 when asked my mother where babies come from, and she sat me down and said that when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much, they hug, and then they make a baby.  The only other conversation I ever had with her about sex was when we were watching a movie in which a teenage girl gets pregnant and then kills her baby.  She said, "I don't ever want you to do that."  I said, "What, become a teenage mother, or kill my baby?"  She said, "Either."  My dad, I'm pretty sure, has never said the word "sex" to me, and I'm 23.   

The point is that some parents won't teach their kids about sex.  Some genuinely don't know themselves.  Some won't give their kids the facts.  I think that just as every child deserves the opportunity to learn to read, every child deserves to learn the relevant facts about their own bodies and how to keep themselves safe from things that might harm it.  And while I don't like the existence of public schools, I think school is probably the perfect place for a teenager to learn about sex just as it's the perfect place to learn about biology and algebra and literature.  Parents should absolutely take the opportunity to instill values in their children about love, about family, and about morality.  But even if some parent wants to raise their children with the belief that sex outside of marriage is wrong--and I believe they have the right to do that--that doesn't mean that the child, once he gets old enough that his body is mature enough to have sex, doesn't have every right to learn how sex works, what dangers it might pose, and how to protect himself from those dangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronwyn:  You&#8217;re lucky.  I was about 10 when asked my mother where babies come from, and she sat me down and said that when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much, they hug, and then they make a baby.  The only other conversation I ever had with her about sex was when we were watching a movie in which a teenage girl gets pregnant and then kills her baby.  She said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t ever want you to do that.&#8221;  I said, &#8220;What, become a teenage mother, or kill my baby?&#8221;  She said, &#8220;Either.&#8221;  My dad, I&#8217;m pretty sure, has never said the word &#8220;sex&#8221; to me, and I&#8217;m 23.   </p>
<p>The point is that some parents won&#8217;t teach their kids about sex.  Some genuinely don&#8217;t know themselves.  Some won&#8217;t give their kids the facts.  I think that just as every child deserves the opportunity to learn to read, every child deserves to learn the relevant facts about their own bodies and how to keep themselves safe from things that might harm it.  And while I don&#8217;t like the existence of public schools, I think school is probably the perfect place for a teenager to learn about sex just as it&#8217;s the perfect place to learn about biology and algebra and literature.  Parents should absolutely take the opportunity to instill values in their children about love, about family, and about morality.  But even if some parent wants to raise their children with the belief that sex outside of marriage is wrong&#8211;and I believe they have the right to do that&#8211;that doesn&#8217;t mean that the child, once he gets old enough that his body is mature enough to have sex, doesn&#8217;t have every right to learn how sex works, what dangers it might pose, and how to protect himself from those dangers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 00:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, you are a dreamer aren't you?</description>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, where on earth did you get the idea that Swedish society is puritanical with regard to sex? The truth is about as far in the opposite direction as it's possible to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, where on earth did you get the idea that Swedish society is puritanical with regard to sex? The truth is about as far in the opposite direction as it&#8217;s possible to get.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt-
Even teachers who are allowed to teach safe sex along with abstinence have very strict guidelines on what they can discuss, and how.  They are not allowed to encourage one behavior over another, and are generally only allowed to answer questions in a technical matter.

And what's wrong with dildos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt-<br />
Even teachers who are allowed to teach safe sex along with abstinence have very strict guidelines on what they can discuss, and how.  They are not allowed to encourage one behavior over another, and are generally only allowed to answer questions in a technical matter.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with dildos?</p>
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		<title>By: supergenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>supergenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they teach about dildos in sex ed???</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unnamed poster...
Your analogy with teaching kids how to use an electrical outlet is excellent.  However, we as parents do that teaching.  Suppose they taught that in school and your childs teacher was a Sado-Masochist who got off on watching people electrocute themselves?  O.k. that's a little over the top, but carry that over to the beliefs of the teacher.  Why on earth would you trust any teacher (unless you knew them intimately) to teach his or her personal beliefs about sex?  You have to know better than to simply answer "they don't do that".  People have agenda's and I don't want them teaching my 14 year old girl how to use a dildo.  Or my 16 year old boy that it's normal to meet men in the bathroom in a park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unnamed poster&#8230;<br />
Your analogy with teaching kids how to use an electrical outlet is excellent.  However, we as parents do that teaching.  Suppose they taught that in school and your childs teacher was a Sado-Masochist who got off on watching people electrocute themselves?  O.k. that&#8217;s a little over the top, but carry that over to the beliefs of the teacher.  Why on earth would you trust any teacher (unless you knew them intimately) to teach his or her personal beliefs about sex?  You have to know better than to simply answer &#8220;they don&#8217;t do that&#8221;.  People have agenda&#8217;s and I don&#8217;t want them teaching my 14 year old girl how to use a dildo.  Or my 16 year old boy that it&#8217;s normal to meet men in the bathroom in a park.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Me. . . I think that could be better stated thusly: "Abstain or &lt;b&gt;risk&lt;/b&gt; the consequences, HIV and all."

Really now, let's not go overboard.

When I was 12, I asked my mom how babies were made. She sat down next to me, and told me. Straight up. No frills, no moralising.

I said to her, "mom, I asked you a serious question. If you're just going to be joke around, then never mind."

Anyway, my parents taught me what I needed to know, and my friends and a bunch of awful young men taught me all the things that can be wrong in a sexual relationship, outside of disease and pregnancy. I knew how to protect myself in that respect, but in all the emotional aspects of self-preservation were things I learned the hard way.

I don't think I could have learned any of this effectively in a classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Me. . . I think that could be better stated thusly: &#8220;Abstain or <b>risk</b> the consequences, HIV and all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really now, let&#8217;s not go overboard.</p>
<p>When I was 12, I asked my mom how babies were made. She sat down next to me, and told me. Straight up. No frills, no moralising.</p>
<p>I said to her, &#8220;mom, I asked you a serious question. If you&#8217;re just going to be joke around, then never mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, my parents taught me what I needed to know, and my friends and a bunch of awful young men taught me all the things that can be wrong in a sexual relationship, outside of disease and pregnancy. I knew how to protect myself in that respect, but in all the emotional aspects of self-preservation were things I learned the hard way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I could have learned any of this effectively in a classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 20:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the decades old book "Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex but were Afraid to Ask" the author addressed the question of waiting for marriage.

He said it would be effective if all kids started getting married at 14.

I believe in fighting the battles we can win.  Getting teenagers in this society to totally abstain, to trust their health and lives to their teenage decision making and ability to stick to their abstinance is an excercise in futility.

We don't stop them from electrocuting themselves by telling them they simply can't use electricity.  We teach them how to use it safely.

The fact is, many parents do not take the time to teach their kids these things.  And you can stand back and say "I don't want the school teaching my kids about sex, that's my job" but it is a head in the sand approach.  Your kid IS learning about sex at school.  If not in the classrooms than in the halls and rest rooms and the back of the bus.  

I would rather my daughter have access to a teacher that is allowed to give her a straight answer about sex than only have access to the football player in the back of the bus who is lying to her about how they can "Do It" without her getting pregnant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the decades old book &#8220;Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex but were Afraid to Ask&#8221; the author addressed the question of waiting for marriage.</p>
<p>He said it would be effective if all kids started getting married at 14.</p>
<p>I believe in fighting the battles we can win.  Getting teenagers in this society to totally abstain, to trust their health and lives to their teenage decision making and ability to stick to their abstinance is an excercise in futility.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t stop them from electrocuting themselves by telling them they simply can&#8217;t use electricity.  We teach them how to use it safely.</p>
<p>The fact is, many parents do not take the time to teach their kids these things.  And you can stand back and say &#8220;I don&#8217;t want the school teaching my kids about sex, that&#8217;s my job&#8221; but it is a head in the sand approach.  Your kid IS learning about sex at school.  If not in the classrooms than in the halls and rest rooms and the back of the bus.  </p>
<p>I would rather my daughter have access to a teacher that is allowed to give her a straight answer about sex than only have access to the football player in the back of the bus who is lying to her about how they can &#8220;Do It&#8221; without her getting pregnant.</p>
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		<title>By: digamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>digamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If more kids had the poor personal hygiene, social ineptitude, and low self-esteem I had as a teenager, they'd have no problem with pregnancy or STD's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If more kids had the poor personal hygiene, social ineptitude, and low self-esteem I had as a teenager, they&#8217;d have no problem with pregnancy or STD&#8217;s.</p>
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