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By: TRUELESBIANS

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By: The Fan

The Fan — Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:53 +0000

You don’t like baseball’s anti-trust exemption? Blame Oliver Wendell Holmes, who authored the Supreme Court decision that created the anti-trust extension. Better yet, blame Harry Blackmun. In perhaps the most egregious mistake in his embarassing career, he wrote in Kuhn vs Flood that although the Supreme Court had made an error previously, it could not correct that error.

By: cmck

cmck — Mon, 10 May 2004 15:49:00 +0000

I take the Hemingway approach - its not a sport unless your life is in constant jeopardy while participating - bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor racing. End paraphrased quote. You get the gist anyway.
I’m sympathetic to the need for baseball as an truly American institution - but we have to start drawing the line somewhere. We the people thru the gobmint have essentially give MLB a free pass. Now that we have done that and financed it to boot - why should we complain or worry about Sen Blowhard getting in up to his shins in it. I personally quit going to MLB games after the whole strike fiasco - so it doesn’t affect me directly - but between unaccountable players and a business model with no constraints (apparently what all Americans want now - everything for free and the right to petition for redress that they got exactly what they wanted) - why are we surprised, or better yet - why do we care? I think it says a lot about American culture.

By: kevrob

kevrob — Sun, 09 May 2004 23:18:27 +0000

Too bad we can’t turn on the Wayback Machine, go back to FDR’s administration, and deny Cleveland the authority to use WPA money to build the Mistake On The Lake. Prior to that, baseball teams either owned their own stadia or rented them from another private sector owner. Once one team used the subsidy involved to build a winner, others followed. I’d pass a law that set a deadline to move all sports arenas into the private hands by a date certain. Leagues that did not comply would lose any existing anti-trust exemption. The owners would probably need a window of, say, ten years to phase in this new regime.

(BTW, it’s Spider-Man. Two capitals, one hyphen.)

Kevin

By: Pejmanesque

Pejmanesque — Sun, 09 May 2004 16:40:37 +0000

A FUNDAMENTAL WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY

Radley Balko reveals that some members of Congress appear to have nothing better to do than to engage in busywork and nonsense. I suppose that comes as little surprise for those familiar with Twain’s famously savage dismissal of our nation’s…

By: Pieces of Flair

Pieces of Flair — Fri, 07 May 2004 01:09:05 +0000

Logo a No-No? “No,” Says Ho(ey)

I, for one, could not care less about the Spiderman 2 logo on the bases issue that Hipp (and just about everybody else in the world) is so worked up about. Radley has already articulated my position well: I was

By: Danno49

Danno49 — Thu, 06 May 2004 22:34:45 +0000

If NASCAR is a ’sport’, then is my commute to work ‘8 minute abs’?

RAOTFLMAO!

It would depend on where you live.

LA? Yep. You’re trim by the time you get to work.

Tucumcari, NM? No way. Too peaceful.

By: Joe Sims

Joe Sims — Thu, 06 May 2004 22:28:47 +0000

If NASCAR is a ’sport’, then is my commute to work ‘8 minute abs’?

By: David L.

David L. — Thu, 06 May 2004 21:48:57 +0000

I think what’s really alarming is that NASCAR somehow became “the most popular sport in the country.”

By: digamma

digamma — Thu, 06 May 2004 21:07:47 +0000

As a huge baseball fan, I think this Spiderman promo is despicable. But god damn, I hadn’t even CONSIDERED that Congress might get involved. Argh, how DARE they make me sympathetic to Bud Selig?!

By: Bob B.

Bob B. — Thu, 06 May 2004 21:07:03 +0000

The quest for the mighty dollar takes yet another turn.

Congress doesn’t have enought to screw up they want to find new ways to waste our taxes.

By: MonkeyTown

MonkeyTown — Thu, 06 May 2004 20:55:53 +0000

baseball is a game of wonderful pauses

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

By: Danno49

Danno49 — Thu, 06 May 2004 20:38:58 +0000

I am about as much of a baseball purist as you’re ever going to find. And as much as I abhor the idea of seeing the bags adorned with anything but dirt and cleat marks . . . I can’t see any logical problem in it. I also cannot see why the gummint thinks they should get involved, regardless of the anti-trust monopoloy MLB currently enjoys. I think an excellent point was made by Peer(Peter?)when he/she said:

Baseball and other sports need to keep finding new revenue sources because of the crazy money they pay their employees.

Free market anyone?

I think one of the main reasons why NASCAR is so popular is because their fans wouldn’t put up with this kind of behavior.

Now that’s funny. fangsign, they already put up with more advertising than any sport on the face of the planet! Now if that isn’t what you were referring to, please clarify.

We could ask them as fans to please not do this . . . arrange a boycott . . . but I think that’s about all we are entitled to.

Hey DC, don’t you have a freakin’ war on terror you should be fighting?

By: Frank N

Frank N — Thu, 06 May 2004 20:06:34 +0000

I, um, you know, um, have I mentioned the idea I heard? It’s about an island. Um, see..it’s…well, umm…..AAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve lost it. Stick a fork in DC. They’re done.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:39:02 +0000

What really gets me is this quote:
“The U.S. government recognizes the special contribution of baseball to our nation by granting MLB special anti-trust exemptions. This over-the-top commercialization of baseball undermines its value to our nation and potentially questions the need for MLB’s special monopoly status.”
The special contribution of baseball to our nation? I’d say a company like Microsoft contributes a lot more to our country and way of life than baseball, but apparently they aren’t deserving of anti-trust exemptions.
The nanny state knows no bounds…

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:35:41 +0000

Fangsign, I agree in general that govmt should not be in sports, but since govmt steals our money for everything else and never gives me anything in return at least I will support them wasting money on something that finally is a benefit to me like a new stadium.

By: fangsign

fangsign — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:32:21 +0000

Government shouldn’t be involved in any sport. No tax dollars should goto fund any parks or anything related to sports teams. They should all live and die by the free market. Just like freelance IT consultants.
Besides, baseball sucks. As long as the players are unwilling to pee in a cup then the claim that it’s not legit will stick. I don’t really care if a player does to that because it is their body. But at the sametime, if I shell out my hard earned cash to goto a game then I want to know who is doing it and who isn’t. At least with something that is fake like wrestling I know what I’m paying for.

I think one of the main reasons why NASCAR is so popular is because their fans wouldn’t put up with this kind of behavior. Heck, they are willing to throw their beer away if they think a race is called bad. Can’t imagine the type of outrage that would hit the fan if drivers where unwilling to be forthcoming about drug use.

By: supergenius

supergenius — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:23:09 +0000

Sigh.

Well, this can generate some money for teams that don’t have George Steinbrenner’s assets. Then I don’t have to listen to whining RS fans who complain their team can’t win because they don’t have the payroll.

By: Peer

Peer — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:22:51 +0000

The public just can not piece it together. Baseball and other sports need to keep finding new revenue sources because of the crazy money they pay their employees. I hate to see it but I have no problem with it. Until the public gets fed up with the way the system is set up starts demanding acountability it will keep getting worse.

Someone has to pay the salaries, and in the end the part that the consumer pays is being bombarded with advertising that pays for the broadcasters who pay for the TV contracts.

The reason that these teams pay their players more money than they have in revenues is that sports are not a free enterprise business. Every team needs the others. The Yankees would be worthless without 29 other teams in the league to play against. But since they have the greatest revenues they can spend the most, on the other hand the rest of the teams need to compete with them, so they have not choice but to spend more than they have.

In comes MLB, run by some of the dumbest people around, Selig, Dupey….and instead of making things competitive and having salary restrictions they try to find more Johns to whore themselves out to. Make no mistake, MLB are whores who will do anything for money. Not that the players union is much better, they believe that the owners have all the duty to keep the game alive while the union’s only role is to take as much money from in the present as possible.

Nice swipe at baseball being boring Radley, but baseball is a game of wonderful pauses that is considerably more mental than most other sports. If you want boring watch some pro basketball. That is a gutter sport. Wow, look at how talented that 7 foot guy is, he just dunked with authority. That takes skill. Pro basketball represents the new American mentality, one second clips of guys dunking and individual play, the highlight reel. The only skill needed to play that game is to come out of your mother’s womb 7 feet tall. And best of all is watching the last two minutes of a game that take 30 minutes to play.

By: John T. Kennedy

John T. Kennedy — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:19:57 +0000

“I agree with you in principle. If there was absolutely no public monies involved in the game, then I would agree with you whole heartedly. However, as long as baseball operates under an anti-trust exemption and plays in publicly funded parks, I think elected officials should have a say in what “Honest” Bud’s Used Ca…er Baseball can and can’t do.”

And some people think private schools wouldn’t be socialized under a voucher system…