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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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Date: 10 May 2004
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Get Mad Dough!!! NEED EXTRA CASH???? TURN $6.00 INTO $6000 OR $60000... READING THIS MESSAGE WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER !!!!!!PLEASE READ THIS ALL!!!!!!!!! !!!!IT HELPED ME &amp; IT CAN HELP YOU!!!! !!!! NOT A SCAM !!!! !!!I REPEAT NOT A SCAM!!! THIS ONLY COST YOU A 6.00 CASH !!!INVESTMENT!!! IT DOES WORK !!!PLEASE READ ALL!!! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now,and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, &quot;Yeah right, this must be a scam&quot;, but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: &quot;what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?&quot; Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!?... Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it&#039;s still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it&#039;s still coming in rapidly. It&#039;s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, WHY it works... Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It&#039;s easy. It&#039;s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is 99% no risk - it really works! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it&#039;s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper &quot;PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.&quot; Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal. Mail the 6 envelopes to the Following addresses: 
#1) Obaind Suleman 702 Custer Ave. Apt2 Evanston, IL 60202 
#2)Idris Stackhouse 330 Lenox road. Apt 5m Brooklyn, New York 11226 
#3)Eric Stilley 1715 Possum Trail Harker Heights, TX 76548 
#4)Pierre Jenkins 7816 Regent Drive Arlington, TX 76001 
#5)Zack Morton 1707 East 4th Street Coal Valley, IL 61240 
#6)Christine Minor 2596 NW 89 Drive, Coral Springs, FL 33065
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up 1 place (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc...) and add YOUR name and address as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! You won&#039;t get very much unless you post like crazy. :) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 &amp; 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) so, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you&#039;re in business! DIRECTIONS  FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS---- Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select &#039;copy&#039; from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer&#039;s memory. Step 2) Open a blank &#039;notepad&#039; file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the &#039;edit&#039; menu select &#039;paste&#039;. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you&#039;ll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You&#039;re done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT&#039;S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That&#039;s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, &quot;what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.</description>
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From: Christine<br />
Date: 10 May 2004<br />
Time: 23:56:11<br />
Remote Name: 208.16.227.173<br />
Comments<br />
MAKE MONEY DOING NOTHING<br />
Get Mad Dough!!! NEED EXTRA CASH???? TURN $6.00 INTO $6000 OR $60000&#8230; READING THIS MESSAGE WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER !!!!!!PLEASE READ THIS ALL!!!!!!!!! !!!!IT HELPED ME &#038; IT CAN HELP YOU!!!! !!!! NOT A SCAM !!!! !!!I REPEAT NOT A SCAM!!! THIS ONLY COST YOU A 6.00 CASH !!!INVESTMENT!!! IT DOES WORK !!!PLEASE READ ALL!!! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now,and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, &#8220;Yeah right, this must be a scam&#8221;, but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: &#8220;what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?&#8221; Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!?&#8230; Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it&#8217;s still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it&#8217;s still coming in rapidly. It&#8217;s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, WHY it works&#8230; Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It&#8217;s easy. It&#8217;s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is 99% no risk &#8211; it really works! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it&#8217;s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper &#8220;PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.&#8221; Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal. Mail the 6 envelopes to the Following addresses:<br />
#1) Obaind Suleman 702 Custer Ave. Apt2 Evanston, IL 60202<br />
#2)Idris Stackhouse 330 Lenox road. Apt 5m Brooklyn, New York 11226<br />
#3)Eric Stilley 1715 Possum Trail Harker Heights, TX 76548<br />
#4)Pierre Jenkins 7816 Regent Drive Arlington, TX 76001<br />
#5)Zack Morton 1707 East 4th Street Coal Valley, IL 61240<br />
#6)Christine Minor 2596 NW 89 Drive, Coral Springs, FL 33065<br />
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up 1 place (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc&#8230;) and add YOUR name and address as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! You won&#8217;t get very much unless you post like crazy. :) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 &#038; 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) so, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you&#8217;re in business! DIRECTIONS  FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS&#8212;- Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select &#8216;copy&#8217; from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer&#8217;s memory. Step 2) Open a blank &#8216;notepad&#8217; file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the &#8216;edit&#8217; menu select &#8216;paste&#8217;. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you&#8217;ll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You&#8217;re done with your first one! Congratulations&#8230;THAT&#8217;S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That&#8217;s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so&#8230; People have said, &#8220;what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocketman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocketman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by: on April 29, 2004 04:23 PM, says,

&quot;Most here, Radley included, miss the point. It&#039;s not about whether or not you believe in abortion - many pro-choicers themselves never had one, never will, or never would. The march and pro-choice movement is about believing that the government doesn&#039;t have the right to make the choice for an individual&quot;

Oh really!!

A blog full of libertarians here and you think we miss the point?

Honey, I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s you that misses the point.  When YOU are the one on the receiving end of the scalpel, then you can complain about the government making the choice for(what would otherwise be) your mother.

Those of us who are pro-life are viewing this as a protection of third party rights.

We want to use government to prevent A contracting with B to slice and dice &quot;C&quot;.

This debate is about whether or not the target of abortion has rights and is therefore a victim.

It is not about whether or not abortionists &quot;love freedom&quot; more than the rest of us.

I apologize for being so blunt, but your comment implies that the polite language used throughout this thread has failed to make that point to you.  I hope this helped.

Again, my apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by: on April 29, 2004 04:23 PM, says,</p>
<p>&#8220;Most here, Radley included, miss the point. It&#8217;s not about whether or not you believe in abortion &#8211; many pro-choicers themselves never had one, never will, or never would. The march and pro-choice movement is about believing that the government doesn&#8217;t have the right to make the choice for an individual&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh really!!</p>
<p>A blog full of libertarians here and you think we miss the point?</p>
<p>Honey, I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s you that misses the point.  When YOU are the one on the receiving end of the scalpel, then you can complain about the government making the choice for(what would otherwise be) your mother.</p>
<p>Those of us who are pro-life are viewing this as a protection of third party rights.</p>
<p>We want to use government to prevent A contracting with B to slice and dice &#8220;C&#8221;.</p>
<p>This debate is about whether or not the target of abortion has rights and is therefore a victim.</p>
<p>It is not about whether or not abortionists &#8220;love freedom&#8221; more than the rest of us.</p>
<p>I apologize for being so blunt, but your comment implies that the polite language used throughout this thread has failed to make that point to you.  I hope this helped.</p>
<p>Again, my apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/04/27/obligatory-abortion-post/comment-page-2/#comment-44903</link>
		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But I think once the relationship is voluntarily assumed (and I think that viability is a reasonable point after which which we can assume the relationship is voluntary),&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It seems reasonable to me to recognize the relationship as voluntary after consensual sex, the fetus did not arise as the result of any act of aggression, it arose as the result of free choice.

But if you&#039;re not going to assume the relationship is voluntary at that point I don&#039;t see why you must assume it at viability.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;... it is certainly appropriate for society and for the law to expect that the mother won&#039;t simply default on the responsibility she has voluntarily assumed.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Why? If she produced the child why should anyone else have a vote?

How is the social interest angle compatible with libertarianism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But I think once the relationship is voluntarily assumed (and I think that viability is a reasonable point after which which we can assume the relationship is voluntary),&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It seems reasonable to me to recognize the relationship as voluntary after consensual sex, the fetus did not arise as the result of any act of aggression, it arose as the result of free choice.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re not going to assume the relationship is voluntary at that point I don&#8217;t see why you must assume it at viability.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; it is certainly appropriate for society and for the law to expect that the mother won&#8217;t simply default on the responsibility she has voluntarily assumed.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Why? If she produced the child why should anyone else have a vote?</p>
<p>How is the social interest angle compatible with libertarianism?</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2004/04/27/obligatory-abortion-post/comment-page-2/#comment-44902</link>
		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like to use the term &quot;contract&quot; between mother and child because I don&#039;t think a child is capable of entering into a contract--certainly a fetus isn&#039;t.  

But I think once the relationship is voluntarily assumed (and I think that  viability is a reasonable point after which which we can assume the relationship is voluntary), it is certainly appropriate for society and for the law to expect that the mother won&#039;t simply default on the responsibility she has voluntarily assumed.  If she wants to pass the responsibility on to someone else, that&#039;s one thing, but killing the child (or in your example allowing the child to die while it is in her care) is quite another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like to use the term &#8220;contract&#8221; between mother and child because I don&#8217;t think a child is capable of entering into a contract&#8211;certainly a fetus isn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>But I think once the relationship is voluntarily assumed (and I think that  viability is a reasonable point after which which we can assume the relationship is voluntary), it is certainly appropriate for society and for the law to expect that the mother won&#8217;t simply default on the responsibility she has voluntarily assumed.  If she wants to pass the responsibility on to someone else, that&#8217;s one thing, but killing the child (or in your example allowing the child to die while it is in her care) is quite another.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most here, Radley included, miss the point. It&#039;s not about whether or not you believe in abortion - many pro-choicers themselves never had one, never will, or never would. The march and pro-choice movement is about believing that the government doesn&#039;t have the right to make the choice for an individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most here, Radley included, miss the point. It&#8217;s not about whether or not you believe in abortion &#8211; many pro-choicers themselves never had one, never will, or never would. The march and pro-choice movement is about believing that the government doesn&#8217;t have the right to make the choice for an individual.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;My basic supposition is that the early term fetus--my opinions change drastically and rapidly as we discuss abortions past the first trimester or when the fetus might reasonably survive outside the mother&#039;s womb--simply isn&#039;t human, simply doesn&#039;t have the rights that non-slaving holding abolitionists were trying to defend. Anti-abolitionists believed that the slaves had human rights, and part of being a rights-bearing individual is that you are also responsible for not violating the rights of other rights-bearing individuals. A fetus can&#039;t by its very nature respect the rights of a mother who doesn&#039;t want it there.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Suppose a mother takes her infant swimming. She swims out 100 feet from the shore where the water is 20 feet deep. They are alone.

At this moment the child is no less dependent on the mother for it&#039;s life then it was as a fetus. And (except in the case of rape) the mother was no more forced into this situtation than she was forced to bear the fetus. Both situations are a consequence of her voluntary choice.

Suppose in the middle of the lake the mother decides she doesn&#039;t want the child, she doesn&#039;t care to support it in any way. Does the child have a right to safe passage back to the shore at her expense?

I don&#039;t see why being outside of her body would produce such a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;My basic supposition is that the early term fetus&#8211;my opinions change drastically and rapidly as we discuss abortions past the first trimester or when the fetus might reasonably survive outside the mother&#8217;s womb&#8211;simply isn&#8217;t human, simply doesn&#8217;t have the rights that non-slaving holding abolitionists were trying to defend. Anti-abolitionists believed that the slaves had human rights, and part of being a rights-bearing individual is that you are also responsible for not violating the rights of other rights-bearing individuals. A fetus can&#8217;t by its very nature respect the rights of a mother who doesn&#8217;t want it there.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Suppose a mother takes her infant swimming. She swims out 100 feet from the shore where the water is 20 feet deep. They are alone.</p>
<p>At this moment the child is no less dependent on the mother for it&#8217;s life then it was as a fetus. And (except in the case of rape) the mother was no more forced into this situtation than she was forced to bear the fetus. Both situations are a consequence of her voluntary choice.</p>
<p>Suppose in the middle of the lake the mother decides she doesn&#8217;t want the child, she doesn&#8217;t care to support it in any way. Does the child have a right to safe passage back to the shore at her expense?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why being outside of her body would produce such a right.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brooke,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Someone on Tim Lee&#039;s blog asked me if that meant I wouldn&#039;t let menopausal women vote on it or if I would let 14, 15, 16 year old girls vote on it. But what it means to me is that NO ONE should be voting on it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

What should people be voting on, if not the lives and liberty of other individuals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brooke,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Someone on Tim Lee&#8217;s blog asked me if that meant I wouldn&#8217;t let menopausal women vote on it or if I would let 14, 15, 16 year old girls vote on it. But what it means to me is that NO ONE should be voting on it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>What should people be voting on, if not the lives and liberty of other individuals?</p>
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		<title>By: Rocketman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocketman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant Gould says,

&quot;I think that really that&#039;s the true abortion debate: People utterly convinced that they can definitively answer a vague, ill-posed, and thorny moral question, versus the rest of us&quot;.

A perfect description of the intellectual problem if there ever was one.  The question is, if there is a reasonable doubt that human life is at stake, how do we resolve it? 

The answer for me has always been to weigh the costs of protecting human life versus the benefits of doing so. 

If we ban all abortion(and I&#039;d go for the ectopic pregnancy exception)to protect human life and it somehow turns out that was &quot;wrong&quot; what have we lost in the mistaken pursuit of protecting human life?  Answer: the least desirable and medically recommended form of birth control.  Instead of 57 ways to avoid child-birth we&#039;d only have 56.

If we DON&#039;T ban abortion and the PL&#039;s are right-what have we lost?  I&#039;ll let your own conscience answer that question.

Another thing someone said(I think it was Brooke) is that it is inappropriate to take a vote on this.

  I disagree in the strongest possible terms. If anything, a popular vote is THE most appropriate way to deal with this issue.  We are the only sentient creatures qualified to put a value on human life.  If a majority of us don&#039;t think that human life is valuable enough to protect in this manner then guess what?

It isn&#039;t. 

I will only be satisfied with an up or down vote of the majority on this issue and yes, I&#039;d go for a state by state decision.(for whatever it&#039;s worth I probably WOULD relocate depending on how the vote went in my state if only to peacefully disassociate myself from those who make the PC calculation)

While I do not think that my premise is &quot;wing-nut&quot;, I&#039;ve got no problem admitting that my conclusions are quite extreme.

On this issue, I wouldn&#039;t have it any other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant Gould says,</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that really that&#8217;s the true abortion debate: People utterly convinced that they can definitively answer a vague, ill-posed, and thorny moral question, versus the rest of us&#8221;.</p>
<p>A perfect description of the intellectual problem if there ever was one.  The question is, if there is a reasonable doubt that human life is at stake, how do we resolve it? </p>
<p>The answer for me has always been to weigh the costs of protecting human life versus the benefits of doing so. </p>
<p>If we ban all abortion(and I&#8217;d go for the ectopic pregnancy exception)to protect human life and it somehow turns out that was &#8220;wrong&#8221; what have we lost in the mistaken pursuit of protecting human life?  Answer: the least desirable and medically recommended form of birth control.  Instead of 57 ways to avoid child-birth we&#8217;d only have 56.</p>
<p>If we DON&#8217;T ban abortion and the PL&#8217;s are right-what have we lost?  I&#8217;ll let your own conscience answer that question.</p>
<p>Another thing someone said(I think it was Brooke) is that it is inappropriate to take a vote on this.</p>
<p>  I disagree in the strongest possible terms. If anything, a popular vote is THE most appropriate way to deal with this issue.  We are the only sentient creatures qualified to put a value on human life.  If a majority of us don&#8217;t think that human life is valuable enough to protect in this manner then guess what?</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I will only be satisfied with an up or down vote of the majority on this issue and yes, I&#8217;d go for a state by state decision.(for whatever it&#8217;s worth I probably WOULD relocate depending on how the vote went in my state if only to peacefully disassociate myself from those who make the PC calculation)</p>
<p>While I do not think that my premise is &#8220;wing-nut&#8221;, I&#8217;ve got no problem admitting that my conclusions are quite extreme.</p>
<p>On this issue, I wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way.</p>
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		<title>By: osheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>osheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how quickly we carriers of the Libertarian banner will throw it to the ground and tread all over it in defense of governmental legislation of morality; so long as we are in agreement with the moral position taken.</description>
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		<title>By: supergenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>supergenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michelle:

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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, wanted to add i am one of those people who would give consideration to adopting. i&#039;m not there yet (parenting, whoa-huge huge huge) but i think it would be a very fulfilling experience. k, that&#039;s all of my personal info and opinions for today, y&#039;all know way too much! michelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, wanted to add i am one of those people who would give consideration to adopting. i&#8217;m not there yet (parenting, whoa-huge huge huge) but i think it would be a very fulfilling experience. k, that&#8217;s all of my personal info and opinions for today, y&#8217;all know way too much! michelle</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don;t have a lot to add to this discussion as you all have hashed it out well, and all points have been made clearly. i am on the pro-choice side but do feel like most that 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions are wrong. that however doesn&#039;t mean i think it is right for someone, anyone, to tell a pregnant woman what she can do with something, a-little-person-soon-to-be actually, that she and someone else she presumably loves and respects, has knowingly created. may i pose this hypothetical-should abortions be banned, and all women who ever become pregnant in the future, are forced to carry the fetus til birth, where upon at that time they could keep or have be adopted(sorry for the bad grammar) the baby, what do you s&#039;pose would happen to most of these newborns? adopted by middle class families that will provide for them and love them well? surely those of you who are staunchly pro-life don&#039;t think that a woman who does not want to carry a child to term and raise the child, is always going to be the best person to take care of the baby? i at one time felt much more strongly about this topic, but i think on this issue there are a lot of factors to consider. jiminy i am almost sorry i am hitting send as i can feel the harsh criticism but this is a really really tough issue. for me anyway. michelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don;t have a lot to add to this discussion as you all have hashed it out well, and all points have been made clearly. i am on the pro-choice side but do feel like most that 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions are wrong. that however doesn&#8217;t mean i think it is right for someone, anyone, to tell a pregnant woman what she can do with something, a-little-person-soon-to-be actually, that she and someone else she presumably loves and respects, has knowingly created. may i pose this hypothetical-should abortions be banned, and all women who ever become pregnant in the future, are forced to carry the fetus til birth, where upon at that time they could keep or have be adopted(sorry for the bad grammar) the baby, what do you s&#8217;pose would happen to most of these newborns? adopted by middle class families that will provide for them and love them well? surely those of you who are staunchly pro-life don&#8217;t think that a woman who does not want to carry a child to term and raise the child, is always going to be the best person to take care of the baby? i at one time felt much more strongly about this topic, but i think on this issue there are a lot of factors to consider. jiminy i am almost sorry i am hitting send as i can feel the harsh criticism but this is a really really tough issue. for me anyway. michelle</p>
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		<title>By: The Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obvious question is â?¦ Do the proponents of Abortion believe that Morality is &lt;i&gt;Subjective&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Objective&lt;/i&gt;?

If morality is &lt;i&gt;Subjective&lt;/i&gt; then it is just as â??moralâ? to abort your fetus as it is to not abort your fetus. Similarly it is just as moral to euphanize your elderly grandmother with Alzheimerâ??s disease as it is to not euphanize grandma. 

Coversely if morality is &lt;i&gt;Objective&lt;/i&gt; then whether Abortion is moral or not would depend upon the nature and source of the Objective morality (i.e. the Source of the Objectivity).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obvious question is â?¦ Do the proponents of Abortion believe that Morality is <i>Subjective</i> or <i>Objective</i>?</p>
<p>If morality is <i>Subjective</i> then it is just as â??moralâ? to abort your fetus as it is to not abort your fetus. Similarly it is just as moral to euphanize your elderly grandmother with Alzheimerâ??s disease as it is to not euphanize grandma. </p>
<p>Coversely if morality is <i>Objective</i> then whether Abortion is moral or not would depend upon the nature and source of the Objective morality (i.e. the Source of the Objectivity).</p>
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		<title>By: Pieces of Flair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieces of Flair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Abortion Weekend in DC&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s Radley&#039;s take on this weekend&#039;s protests in DC. Radley has always had, in my view, very reasonable takes on this emotional issue. Here is a similar take by Saint Paul from Fraters Libertas. In my local paper, editorialist Lewis
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<p>Here&#8217;s Radley&#8217;s take on this weekend&#8217;s protests in DC. Radley has always had, in my view, very reasonable takes on this emotional issue. Here is a similar take by Saint Paul from Fraters Libertas. In my local paper, editorialist Lewis</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scared Stiff, I think I know where you might be going with that question. I don&#039;t want any more regulators or &quot;professionals&quot; than you do. But my response is, I don&#039;t know who, maybe a certified counselor, someone who would specialize in that area of expertise???
I would think that a better solution to this issue would be to make it a non-govt issue, but that&#039;s not going to happen. My statement before was somewhat hypothetical or more accurately just thinking aloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scared Stiff, I think I know where you might be going with that question. I don&#8217;t want any more regulators or &#8220;professionals&#8221; than you do. But my response is, I don&#8217;t know who, maybe a certified counselor, someone who would specialize in that area of expertise???<br />
I would think that a better solution to this issue would be to make it a non-govt issue, but that&#8217;s not going to happen. My statement before was somewhat hypothetical or more accurately just thinking aloud.</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
Yes.  I do.

Jerry,
What you have done is commendable, to be sure.  But do you expect everyone to make the same choices as you?

&quot;Rights are rights, regardless of who is your caregiver. How can the ability to have Grandma watch over you suddenly give you &#039;rights&#039;?&quot;

It doesn&#039;t. I think rights and an understanding of the responsibilities attached to them grow together.  If babies have rights in the same sense as you or I, then why don&#039;t they vote?  Why do we hold their parents laible for things that they do?  The fact is, they require some sort of caregiver to act as stewards to this understanding.  We grant children rights while holding that their caregivers are the ones who are responsible.  That caretaker doesn&#039;t need to be the mother.  

And actually, I believe in limited exceptions to the relationship between rights and responsibilities--the relationship between the two is very different in my opinion for people with developmental handicaps for example, in the same way I grant that children have rights and the burden of the responsibility is placed on the caregiver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
Yes.  I do.</p>
<p>Jerry,<br />
What you have done is commendable, to be sure.  But do you expect everyone to make the same choices as you?</p>
<p>&#8220;Rights are rights, regardless of who is your caregiver. How can the ability to have Grandma watch over you suddenly give you &#8216;rights&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t. I think rights and an understanding of the responsibilities attached to them grow together.  If babies have rights in the same sense as you or I, then why don&#8217;t they vote?  Why do we hold their parents laible for things that they do?  The fact is, they require some sort of caregiver to act as stewards to this understanding.  We grant children rights while holding that their caregivers are the ones who are responsible.  That caretaker doesn&#8217;t need to be the mother.  </p>
<p>And actually, I believe in limited exceptions to the relationship between rights and responsibilities&#8211;the relationship between the two is very different in my opinion for people with developmental handicaps for example, in the same way I grant that children have rights and the burden of the responsibility is placed on the caregiver.</p>
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		<title>By: Scared Stiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scared Stiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Dani.  Who is &quot;we&quot; that gets to decide whether they agree with someone&#039;s decision?</description>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are going to allow abortion to remain legal, then shouldn&#039;t we at least say &quot;you must go through a rigorous process of interviewing and counseling before we&#039;ll agree with your decision&quot;? What would be wrong with that, especially in the cases of young adults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are going to allow abortion to remain legal, then shouldn&#8217;t we at least say &#8220;you must go through a rigorous process of interviewing and counseling before we&#8217;ll agree with your decision&#8221;? What would be wrong with that, especially in the cases of young adults?</p>
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