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By: Rich

Rich — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:59:55 +0000

Some of these comments are unbelievable! If you’re in your Yugo, and driving the speed limit on a warm dry day, sure, stopping within 4 seconds is no problem at all… but your little compact car isn’t the only type of vehical on the road. I would like to see some of you idiots stop in such a short time when you’re driving a semi with two trailers on a wet road just after someone with a major oil leak has travelled down the same lane. 5.5 seconds for a yellow sounds pretty reasonable to me, and people who drive with total disreguard for others should loose their right to drive.

By: Randall

Randall — Sun, 16 May 2004 21:47:03 +0000

We need to upgrade our traffic lights to what they have in Kazakhstan. There, the green light starts blinking a few seconds before the light turns to yellow. No one runs the red lights for fear of being run over.

By: The Mad Kaiser

The Mad Kaiser — Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:15:05 +0000

Lights Schmights!

The only way to keep the stoopid rednek ina truk, the soccer mom in a SUV blabing away on a cell, the lowrider Nova full of high-school losers, or the old crone in a $30,000 Lexus from blowing the sign: AUTOMATIC TIRE SPIKES & INSTANT BARICADES!

By: John

John — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:04:01 +0000

I like the Simpson’s idea of doing away with the yellow altogether. People race to get through the intersection or stop quickly because they have no buffer zone to protect them.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:47:16 +0000

When I was in Seoul (S. Korea) some years ago, I noticed that there was no red-light running at all. Koreans regularly drive in parking lanes and make 3 lanes out of 2, but they hit the brakes on the yellow. I was told that this is because accidents at controlled intersections are adjudicated with a simple zero-tolerance rule: if you were in the intersection after the light changed, it’s your fault. Someone who has the green can zoom out and deliberately ram you – and you owe him a new car.

Combine this with Adam Soderstrom’s suggestion (cameras or other recording devices used only to prove the state of the light)…

By: Tom Hunt

Tom Hunt — Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:02:22 +0000

I think one of the reasons that lengthening the yellow at various intersections and the resulting decrease in ‘runs’ has more to with the RELATIONSHIP between the average speed on the road and the length of the yellow.

Standard posted speed for anything 2 lane and/or non-interstate in the Atlanta area is 45 MPH but the average speeds vary widely, relative to the road. On 4 lane, divided roads, the average can push 60 MPH while 2 lane suburban roads will be driven at a little over 50 MPH or less.

Maybe the thing to do would be to monitor average speeds at any intersection in question before changing the yellow and then monitor the effect the change has and try to determine an optimum speed to yellow lenght ratio.

Of course, that would mean that someone with the skills to do this would have to be hired and money appropriated, which I doubt could happen here. I think the last real traffic engineer passed through here with Sherman.

By: Carlos Gomez

Carlos Gomez — Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:51:50 +0000

I drive in a jurisdiction in which the amber signals have been lengthened and there are clearance periods for red signals. The experience has been good initially, but as the drivers get used to the new timings, they do adjust. Running red lights continue to happen as drivers know that cross traffic really doesn’t have a green yet.

By: Adam Soderstrom

Adam Soderstrom — Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:33:33 +0000

Installing camera’s may not do much good toward increasing safety, but it will certainly curtail the rash of lawsuits arising from intersection accidents. When two cars collide in an intersection, and both drivers allege the other had a red light, the net effect is that each will collect damages. Yet we KNOW only one of the cars had a red light. A camera would apparently make it tougher on trial lawyers. As for the privacy issue… same is moot. We do not ned camera’s which record pictures, we can use a number of technologies which will only record the movement of vehicles, whithout diplaying any photograghic images.

By: Overlawyered

Overlawyered — Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:50:26 +0000

Traffic-cams vs. motorist safety

Beware contingency-fee law enforcement: Radley Balko (Mar. 4) has an update on the controversial ticketing machines discussed in our posts of Sept. 6, 2001, Apr. 8-9, 2002 and Apr. 19-21, 2002….

By: Henry Baugh

Henry Baugh — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:34:09 +0000

It only makes sense when you apply logic to such a complicated situation as lights timed etc. Simply remember that Red means Stop, Green means Go and Yellow means Drive faster.

By: Ms. Dani

Ms. Dani — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:40:40 +0000

Lee… Malvo? So they have internet access in prison now? Hmph.

By: Lee

Lee — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:32:10 +0000

Where I live most yellows are pretty long (I’ll have to time them) and just about every major intersection has clearance reds. It has been this way for quite awhile (I moved here in ‘92 and it was in place then).

People STILL run reds.

I’m not talking about entering the intersection on yellow to make a left turn. I’m talking about entering after the red and not exiting until well after the clearance reds. Sometimes MULTIPLE CARS.

I have no problem setting up cameras at the intersections to catch them. Actually I’m more inclined to have snipers instead of cameras ;-)

By: Ms. Dani

Ms. Dani — Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:51:13 +0000

What if they drastically shortened all the yellow lights? Wouldn’t that cause everyone to stop more often than run thru?

By: Dean

Dean — Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:01:01 +0000

I’ve been harping against automatic enforcement of traffic laws like this for years (most of my friends just tune me out now). Nice to see someone else take up the cause. Traffic enforcement = revenue collection for too many law enforcement agencies. I’m sure a lot of cops would rather be doing real police work.