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Wednesday, February 25th, 2004What vile filth. Let’s see: an anti-merchant, anti-commerce rag publishes a list of the people it thinks run America, and demarks the Jews in the bunch with a black dot. Way to morph into a caricature of yourselves, Adbusters!
Way to morph into a caricature of yourselves, Adbusters!
They did that when they decided to sell their own sneaker with an anti-marketing marketing campaign. (Bill Hicks would be vomiting right about now.) With this they’ve just crossed the line into stupidity. I’ve had a subscription for a while because I like the artwork; I’ll be cancelling that subscription immediately.
So . . . Mel Gibson is an Anti-Semite for making a movie about the torture and death of Jesus Christ . . . and Kalle Lasn isn’t for noting the Jews among the movers and shakers? Where are the Catholics in the list? Where are the Mormons? Muslims? Jedi?
Danno,
You could easily turn your argument the other way. Are you sure the knee jerk “mentioning the fact that someone is in fact Jewish makes that person an anti-semite” reaction isn’t what’s at play here? The author points out that the point isn’t that all, most, or even many jews are as described.
Something tells me you don’t disagree with the poster on the next topic who complains “Anyone who disagrees with Steven Spielberg is automatically anti-semitic”.
Would anyone still consider this vile if the list were accompanied with a Q&A asking if and how their Jewishness influences their policy decisions towards Israel and the Middle East?
This seems to be more lazy journalism than anti-semitism. The only way it would be anti-semitic is if Lasn hates these Jewish policy makers solely because they are Jewish.
I think the article is vile not because it raises an uncomfortable question, but because it goes nowhere.
it’s not news that jewish people are successful in politics as they are most fields.
Scared Stiff:
You could easily turn your argument the other way. Are you sure the knee jerk “mentioning the fact that someone is in fact Jewish makes that person an anti-semite” reaction isn’t what’s at play here? The author points out that the point isn’t that all, most, or even many jews are as described.
Sure you could . . . but that’s not where I was really going. Perhaps I missed the focus of the article but I think not. It was pretty evident to me. I was trying to draw a parallel (obviously) between articles like this and the treatment Mel Gibson is receiving for his film. It seems perfectly clear to me that this article is pointing something out that need not be. I suppose you can draw your own conclusion from that. I don’t see it as a good thing.
Something tells me you don’t disagree with the poster on the next topic who complains “Anyone who disagrees with Steven Spielberg is automatically anti-semitic”.
That something would be wrong. I am passionate about my views but I try to temper those passions with logic and temperance. I don’t always make it; I’m human. I disagree with Spielberg on his politics, hell, a lot of people do. Some of them are anti-Semitic, some of them are not. I guess it’s not always obvious who the anti-Semites are.
I can tell you that I would question Lasn’s motivations whereas I wouldn’t Gibson’s. Gibson comes right out and says he isn’t and his film isn’t (anit-Semitic) and states the reasons why whereas Lasn just throws these names, numbers and information out there and dares you to call him on it. Is he? I don’t know but it seems like it in my book.
Hmmm…. I didn’t really find anything wrong with this article. Calling a spade a spade does not offend me in the least, and it is interesting when someone points out a pattern such as this. It makes me consider the possibility that there are influential people who have an allegiance to another government and another nation. That bothers me, whether it’s Jewish people, French people, Asian people.
How cowardly of Radley Balco, a journalist in his own right, to hop on the bandwagon that any suggestion of criticism of Jewish people is anti-semitic or wrong. Ahhh… to be expected, if he wants to make it in his business. Jewish people own a lot of news media too.
I guess while you guys are cancelling your subscriptions to any medium that does not already agree with your pre-conceived conclusions, I guess I’ll delete my bookmark to the Agitator blog.
So should the jews stop being smart and successful because it’s too threatening to the non-jews? Jewish culture has a strong respect and encouragement for education and achievement. Sorry, but not all cultures do. Throughout much of history, jews also weren’t allowed to be property owners, so they banked their prospects on becoming educated. One would have to ask how anyone’s ethnicity in reality affects their policy making decisions. Lots of jews don’t particularly support Israel. There is a deep part of this discussion that frighteningly mirrors anti-jew feeling that created the holocaust. When jews in any number at all are in positions of power, many non-jews seem to become suspicious of “those Others”–who might support Israel, might not be thinking of Germany’s, er, America’s best interests, etc. What would it possibly meant to you that jews have some positions of power in the media? I see plenty of Christmas programming in December, and if they’ve been trying to infiltrate you with pro-jewish thinking, it obviously hasn’t worked. By the way, I’m not jewish, just an observer of how these people have been scapegoated throughout the centuries–remarkably, for their success! You’d think in America that would be celebrated.
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