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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Metrosexual:&#8221;  2004&#8217;s &#8220;Price of Milk.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Claybourn's Domain</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/29/metrosexual-2004s-price-of-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-32232</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Claybourn's Domain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Balko&#039;s on a roll&lt;/strong&gt;

So I hopped over to Radley Balko&#039;s blog and, as expected, found some great posts. In particular, he address Howard
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<p>So I hopped over to Radley Balko&#8217;s blog and, as expected, found some great posts. In particular, he address Howard</p>
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		<title>By: Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Brother Anonymous!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bush hatred + libertarianism = stupdity</description>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt:

&quot;I&#039;m only saying that voting for the libertarian party will have a bigger real-world positive political impact than voting for Howard freaking Dean.&quot;

What positive impact would it have?  Give an example for me to consider.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v25n2/niskanen.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s an argument&lt;/a&gt; for my case from Cato Chairman William Niskanen on divided government.  What is your response to that?

Right now I call voting Lib in &#039;04 a wasted vote.  Who the hell is even running for the Libertarians?  How do I know I&#039;d like him?

How&#039;s this for a symbolic gesture:
Bush and the GOP losing in &#039;04 for all of their very unlibertarian actions during their first term.

To me, allowing a dirtbag like Bush to be re-elected is the most shameful thing that we can do.

&quot;Because I&#039;m getting pretty tired of seeing this libertarians-for-Dean crap.&quot;

Sorry, but I&#039;m tired of seeing Dubya and crew on television representing America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m only saying that voting for the libertarian party will have a bigger real-world positive political impact than voting for Howard freaking Dean.&#8221;</p>
<p>What positive impact would it have?  Give an example for me to consider.  <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v25n2/niskanen.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s an argument</a> for my case from Cato Chairman William Niskanen on divided government.  What is your response to that?</p>
<p>Right now I call voting Lib in &#8216;04 a wasted vote.  Who the hell is even running for the Libertarians?  How do I know I&#8217;d like him?</p>
<p>How&#8217;s this for a symbolic gesture:<br />
Bush and the GOP losing in &#8216;04 for all of their very unlibertarian actions during their first term.</p>
<p>To me, allowing a dirtbag like Bush to be re-elected is the most shameful thing that we can do.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because I&#8217;m getting pretty tired of seeing this libertarians-for-Dean crap.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m tired of seeing Dubya and crew on television representing America.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why Radley is so infatuated with the idea of voting for Dean. I guess the idea is a bit shocking and unexpected coming from a libertarian, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s enough reason to go though with it. All I want to point out is this: if Dean does win, it won&#039;t be because of the sudden upsurge of libertarian support. Market liberals will not decide who wins this election; there aren&#039;t enough of us. With that in mind, wouldn&#039;t it be better for those who support the sort of ideals the big-L Libertarian party mostly supports (or even more broadly, support the political direction the Libertarian party proposes) be better off actually voting for the Libertarians in 2004? There are very few people in this country who are able to vote for the libertarian party; if you&#039;re one of them, wouldn&#039;t it be foolish to throw that opprotunity away? I&#039;m not suggesting that if all libertarians voted Libertarian that a libertarian canidate would be elected. I&#039;m only saying that voting for the libertarian party will have a bigger real-world positive political impact than voting for Howard freaking Dean. Would someone please explain why I am wrong? Because I&#039;m getting pretty tired of seeing this libertarians-for-Dean crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why Radley is so infatuated with the idea of voting for Dean. I guess the idea is a bit shocking and unexpected coming from a libertarian, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s enough reason to go though with it. All I want to point out is this: if Dean does win, it won&#8217;t be because of the sudden upsurge of libertarian support. Market liberals will not decide who wins this election; there aren&#8217;t enough of us. With that in mind, wouldn&#8217;t it be better for those who support the sort of ideals the big-L Libertarian party mostly supports (or even more broadly, support the political direction the Libertarian party proposes) be better off actually voting for the Libertarians in 2004? There are very few people in this country who are able to vote for the libertarian party; if you&#8217;re one of them, wouldn&#8217;t it be foolish to throw that opprotunity away? I&#8217;m not suggesting that if all libertarians voted Libertarian that a libertarian canidate would be elected. I&#8217;m only saying that voting for the libertarian party will have a bigger real-world positive political impact than voting for Howard freaking Dean. Would someone please explain why I am wrong? Because I&#8217;m getting pretty tired of seeing this libertarians-for-Dean crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Serpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh, I think you have it backwards, my Brother. I believe that being Right (true) makes one Mighty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh, I think you have it backwards, my Brother. I believe that being Right (true) makes one Mighty.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serpent,

Since might doesn&#039;t make right why do you want to implement a monopoly of might?</description>
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<p>Since might doesn&#8217;t make right why do you want to implement a monopoly of might?</p>
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		<title>By: Serpent</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/29/metrosexual-2004s-price-of-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-32225</link>
		<dc:creator>Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Kennedy: [Yeah, and the limit on the number of terms should be zero.]

The form of anarchy you espouse is the exact opposite of civilization. It would reduce the status of homo sapiens to that of animals (i.e. survival of the fittest/Might makes right).

Fortunately the majority of individuals will always recognize that in order to ensure their own rights and liberties (existence) then they MUST be willing to accept a minimal standard of behavior (i.e. laws or common moral code). 

Complete anarchy is only a utopia when solipsism is true.

Solipsism = the notion that the self is all that exist (i.e. the person reading this post is the only thing to exist, and the universe and everyone else in it are simply figments of your imagination).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Kennedy: [Yeah, and the limit on the number of terms should be zero.]</p>
<p>The form of anarchy you espouse is the exact opposite of civilization. It would reduce the status of homo sapiens to that of animals (i.e. survival of the fittest/Might makes right).</p>
<p>Fortunately the majority of individuals will always recognize that in order to ensure their own rights and liberties (existence) then they MUST be willing to accept a minimal standard of behavior (i.e. laws or common moral code). </p>
<p>Complete anarchy is only a utopia when solipsism is true.</p>
<p>Solipsism = the notion that the self is all that exist (i.e. the person reading this post is the only thing to exist, and the universe and everyone else in it are simply figments of your imagination).</p>
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		<title>By: Enobarbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enobarbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garth&#039;s point is right on.  There&#039;s a reason why we call them lame ducks.  Even without a scandal, a second-term president is almost by definition coming off the biggest expense of political capital he will see in his 8 years.  All of his party&#039;s House members and 1/3 of his Senators will have to face the electorate within two years, and will be loath to rock the entitlement boat too much.  And second term presidents typically have shorter coat-tails, so the president will be owed fewer favors.  All of this rolls together with the opposition&#039;s natural tendency to look ahead to the next election and start building an electoral foundation right away, leaving the lame duck very much out in the cold.

Reagan offered his huge and controversial tax restructuring in his first term; Clinton offered his bold if fatally flawed health care proposal; Nixon turned the old missile-gap mentality on its head with the first SALT talks, and unexpectedly reversed his own fiery anti-communist past with a willingness to &quot;do business&quot; with China.

If you&#039;re waiting for the second term for Bush to get down to nutcutting, you&#039;ll likely be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garth&#8217;s point is right on.  There&#8217;s a reason why we call them lame ducks.  Even without a scandal, a second-term president is almost by definition coming off the biggest expense of political capital he will see in his 8 years.  All of his party&#8217;s House members and 1/3 of his Senators will have to face the electorate within two years, and will be loath to rock the entitlement boat too much.  And second term presidents typically have shorter coat-tails, so the president will be owed fewer favors.  All of this rolls together with the opposition&#8217;s natural tendency to look ahead to the next election and start building an electoral foundation right away, leaving the lame duck very much out in the cold.</p>
<p>Reagan offered his huge and controversial tax restructuring in his first term; Clinton offered his bold if fatally flawed health care proposal; Nixon turned the old missile-gap mentality on its head with the first SALT talks, and unexpectedly reversed his own fiery anti-communist past with a willingness to &#8220;do business&#8221; with China.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re waiting for the second term for Bush to get down to nutcutting, you&#8217;ll likely be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great job balko! i am sure your 1 measly vote will put dean over the top. meanwhile you marginalize libertarians in the one party they have a chance of making gains into! 

dumber than promoting a blue-skinned druid as a libertarian candiate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great job balko! i am sure your 1 measly vote will put dean over the top. meanwhile you marginalize libertarians in the one party they have a chance of making gains into! </p>
<p>dumber than promoting a blue-skinned druid as a libertarian candiate!</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serpent says: &quot;In my experience second term presidents are far more likely to press politically unpopular but necessary reforms. The reason for this (in my opinion) is that they no longer have to worry about getting re-elected, and instead can focus on the good of the country and their long-term legacy and reputation.&quot;

In my experience, second term president&#039;s are lame ducks under seige from scandal.  Name one second term president since the 1960&#039;s for whom this was not the case.  Nixon? (Watergate), Reagan? (Iran-Contra), Clinton? (Monica-gate et al.).  A Bush second term will see a deluge of accusations and recriminations over the War in Iraq among others.  And the rank and file will desert him.  Repubs looking to 2008 elections will distance themselves from him as his popularity plummets and then stab him in the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serpent says: &#8220;In my experience second term presidents are far more likely to press politically unpopular but necessary reforms. The reason for this (in my opinion) is that they no longer have to worry about getting re-elected, and instead can focus on the good of the country and their long-term legacy and reputation.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my experience, second term president&#8217;s are lame ducks under seige from scandal.  Name one second term president since the 1960&#8217;s for whom this was not the case.  Nixon? (Watergate), Reagan? (Iran-Contra), Clinton? (Monica-gate et al.).  A Bush second term will see a deluge of accusations and recriminations over the War in Iraq among others.  And the rank and file will desert him.  Repubs looking to 2008 elections will distance themselves from him as his popularity plummets and then stab him in the back.</p>
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		<title>By: Danjer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danjer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just add to Serpent&#039;s ideas on term limits and such? 
How about also making the politicians earn the country&#039;s average in minimum wage and live in govt housing while in Washington doing their duties, and then let&#039;s see what kinds of people run for office. My suspicion is that the people who would want to run for office would be more like the founding fathers whom sometimes spent their life savings (if I&#039;ve read right) in order to serve this country instead of the likes of Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton who use this country for power and prestige.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just add to Serpent&#8217;s ideas on term limits and such?<br />
How about also making the politicians earn the country&#8217;s average in minimum wage and live in govt housing while in Washington doing their duties, and then let&#8217;s see what kinds of people run for office. My suspicion is that the people who would want to run for office would be more like the founding fathers whom sometimes spent their life savings (if I&#8217;ve read right) in order to serve this country instead of the likes of Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton who use this country for power and prestige.</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serpent -

Not a bad idea.  I never thought of it that way.

One thing&#039;s for sure, however, either plan is better than the one we currently endure.

I love the your idea of some of these schmucks periodically joining us in the working world.  It just may shock a few of them back into reality...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serpent -</p>
<p>Not a bad idea.  I never thought of it that way.</p>
<p>One thing&#8217;s for sure, however, either plan is better than the one we currently endure.</p>
<p>I love the your idea of some of these schmucks periodically joining us in the working world.  It just may shock a few of them back into reality&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Sabotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sabotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5{&lt;i&gt;&quot;Put down the crayons and write up an argument if you have one. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I have no crayons! I am &lt;i&gt;too poor!&lt;/i&gt;

Will President Dean buy me new crayons with all the money he saves by bringin&#039; the troops back home?

Hopefully,
J &quot;deprived&quot; S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5{<i>&#8220;Put down the crayons and write up an argument if you have one. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>I have no crayons! I am <i>too poor!</i></p>
<p>Will President Dean buy me new crayons with all the money he saves by bringin&#8217; the troops back home?</p>
<p>Hopefully,<br />
J &#8220;deprived&#8221; S</p>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 05:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John S.:

Put down the crayons and write up an argument if you have one.  Juvenile name-calling makes you look much more foolish than it does anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John S.:</p>
<p>Put down the crayons and write up an argument if you have one.  Juvenile name-calling makes you look much more foolish than it does anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sabotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sabotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris wrote:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Any libertarian that would vote for another party just to get the lesser of 2 evils should be ashamed...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, the innovative &quot;Libertarians for Dean&quot; strategy is to vote for the &lt;i&gt;greater&lt;/i&gt; of two evils. Twice the shame and twice the ineffectual stupidity, in a new, improved package of self-deluding lameness!

Progress is a beautiful thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Any libertarian that would vote for another party just to get the lesser of 2 evils should be ashamed&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Actually, the innovative &#8220;Libertarians for Dean&#8221; strategy is to vote for the <i>greater</i> of two evils. Twice the shame and twice the ineffectual stupidity, in a new, improved package of self-deluding lameness!</p>
<p>Progress is a beautiful thing.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

&quot;The time has clearly come for term limits to make career politicians extinct.&quot;

Yeah, and the limit on the number of terms should be zero.</description>
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<p>&#8220;The time has clearly come for term limits to make career politicians extinct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and the limit on the number of terms should be zero.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with John.  

Who cares if Bush wants to reform SS?  I say the faster it collapses, the sooner we get rid of it completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with John.  </p>
<p>Who cares if Bush wants to reform SS?  I say the faster it collapses, the sooner we get rid of it completely.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallster,

[i]There is no magical privatization bullet that will fix social security.[/i]

Sure there is, one right between the eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallster,</p>
<p>[i]There is no magical privatization bullet that will fix social security.[/i]</p>
<p>Sure there is, one right between the eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Serpent</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/29/metrosexual-2004s-price-of-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-32213</link>
		<dc:creator>Serpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

I think an even better solution than term limits is an amendment that would prohibit a politician from succeeding himself in the same branch of government for more than a single term. Although after skipping a term in office they could re-run again at a later time. 

In other words, if you were a congressman or senator you could not run for congress or the senate in the next election (although you would be eligible to run for president).

I have a problem with term limits in that they are anti-democratic. If you like a particular individual then why shouldnâ??t you be able to elect him or her to office more than once? 

The real problem is that once a politician gets into office they spend our money (taxpayer money (just think of the â??Franking privilegesâ?)) ensuring that they keep their position forever â?? like a modern day aristocracy. They also refrain from any good-for-the-country decisions which conflict with their selfish desire to be re-elected and remain in power. 

I also believe that the original (justified) intent of the Constitution was to ensure that there was no true â??political classâ?, in that all of our representatives would be drawn from ordinary citizens who actually held jobs and paid taxes. 

If you institute term limits then the guys runs for congress (serves 6 years or 8 or 10), then he jumps to the senate (and serves another 12), and then he comes home and runs for governor (8 years) and then he runs for President (8 years).

Under my scenario the guy could serve as a Congressman, and then he would be out of office with a real job for at least 2 years. After that if his fellow citizens wanted to elect him again they could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>I think an even better solution than term limits is an amendment that would prohibit a politician from succeeding himself in the same branch of government for more than a single term. Although after skipping a term in office they could re-run again at a later time. </p>
<p>In other words, if you were a congressman or senator you could not run for congress or the senate in the next election (although you would be eligible to run for president).</p>
<p>I have a problem with term limits in that they are anti-democratic. If you like a particular individual then why shouldnâ??t you be able to elect him or her to office more than once? </p>
<p>The real problem is that once a politician gets into office they spend our money (taxpayer money (just think of the â??Franking privilegesâ?)) ensuring that they keep their position forever â?? like a modern day aristocracy. They also refrain from any good-for-the-country decisions which conflict with their selfish desire to be re-elected and remain in power. </p>
<p>I also believe that the original (justified) intent of the Constitution was to ensure that there was no true â??political classâ?, in that all of our representatives would be drawn from ordinary citizens who actually held jobs and paid taxes. </p>
<p>If you institute term limits then the guys runs for congress (serves 6 years or 8 or 10), then he jumps to the senate (and serves another 12), and then he comes home and runs for governor (8 years) and then he runs for President (8 years).</p>
<p>Under my scenario the guy could serve as a Congressman, and then he would be out of office with a real job for at least 2 years. After that if his fellow citizens wanted to elect him again they could.</p>
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