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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/02/the-big-fat-idiot-shouldnt-be-forced-to-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-30758</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Maggie,

I agree there is a strong Kenyan bias among sportswriters in America. They would like nothing more than to see a linebacker from Kenya and would pump him up in there collumns ensuring he would one day be a hall of famer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Maggie,</p>
<p>I agree there is a strong Kenyan bias among sportswriters in America. They would like nothing more than to see a linebacker from Kenya and would pump him up in there collumns ensuring he would one day be a hall of famer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush has only made a mistake once, when he once thought he had made a mistake and realized he was mistaken&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush has only made a mistake once, when he once thought he had made a mistake and realized he was mistaken></p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/02/the-big-fat-idiot-shouldnt-be-forced-to-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-30756</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dani Girl, 

I think Bones&#039;s definition can be found in post #5. Thou Shalt not.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani Girl, </p>
<p>I think Bones&#8217;s definition can be found in post #5. Thou Shalt not&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bones -

Regarding your last post about Rush:  &quot;Listen to his show for a few weeks (if you can stand it), or read some of the online transcripts. The man is definitely a racist.&quot;

I don&#039;t know about anyone else, but you sure convinced me with all that hard data.

Look, nobody&#039;s saying you should LIKE Limbaugh.  Few liberals do.  That would be the equivalent of you saying that I should like Al Franken or Michael Moore.  To call Rush a racist is pure ignorance, however.  I&#039;ve been listening for years now, and have yet to hear a single racist comment.  You clearly haven&#039;t been listening to his show very often.

Do you feel like giving us some documented examples of Rush&#039;s apparently obvious racism, or would you rather provide us with more vague, non-specific statements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bones -</p>
<p>Regarding your last post about Rush:  &#8220;Listen to his show for a few weeks (if you can stand it), or read some of the online transcripts. The man is definitely a racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but you sure convinced me with all that hard data.</p>
<p>Look, nobody&#8217;s saying you should LIKE Limbaugh.  Few liberals do.  That would be the equivalent of you saying that I should like Al Franken or Michael Moore.  To call Rush a racist is pure ignorance, however.  I&#8217;ve been listening for years now, and have yet to hear a single racist comment.  You clearly haven&#8217;t been listening to his show very often.</p>
<p>Do you feel like giving us some documented examples of Rush&#8217;s apparently obvious racism, or would you rather provide us with more vague, non-specific statements?</p>
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		<title>By: Dani-girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani-girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bones, please define racism because I think your definition is a little too broad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bones, please define racism because I think your definition is a little too broad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby,
No, there aren&#039;t any Kenyan middle linebackers in the NFL, but if there were they would be overrated. The media has always wanted to see a Kenyan middle linebacker do well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby,<br />
No, there aren&#8217;t any Kenyan middle linebackers in the NFL, but if there were they would be overrated. The media has always wanted to see a Kenyan middle linebacker do well.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/10/02/the-big-fat-idiot-shouldnt-be-forced-to-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-30752</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bones, 

You Obviously dont listen to Rush. 

I always find it amazing when someone says something as you said. Because to those that do listen off and on, A statement like that just proves you dont listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bones, </p>
<p>You Obviously dont listen to Rush. </p>
<p>I always find it amazing when someone says something as you said. Because to those that do listen off and on, A statement like that just proves you dont listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Maggie,

I didn&#039;t make the comparison between what Rush said and what Jimmy the Greek said. I simply responded to another post that used Jimmy as an example of institutional racism among sportscasters.

The Kenyan example is a stretch because what Jimmy the Greek was referring to was size and strength. Last time I checked there weren&#039;t many Kenyan middle linebackers in the NFL. Speed was one thing you could contest Jimmy on, but once again I don&#039;t see many world class Kenyan sprinters. Why they are so good at long distances is a mystery to me and apparently to them as expressed in the Nike commercial, but damned if they aren&#039;t great generation after generation.

I definately don&#039;t draw parralels between Rush and Jimmy. Most of all because Jimmy was just shooting off at the mouth after downing a few and Rush&#039;s opinion was thought out and probably rehearsed. I still don&#039;t see why Jimmy was fired though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Maggie,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make the comparison between what Rush said and what Jimmy the Greek said. I simply responded to another post that used Jimmy as an example of institutional racism among sportscasters.</p>
<p>The Kenyan example is a stretch because what Jimmy the Greek was referring to was size and strength. Last time I checked there weren&#8217;t many Kenyan middle linebackers in the NFL. Speed was one thing you could contest Jimmy on, but once again I don&#8217;t see many world class Kenyan sprinters. Why they are so good at long distances is a mystery to me and apparently to them as expressed in the Nike commercial, but damned if they aren&#8217;t great generation after generation.</p>
<p>I definately don&#8217;t draw parralels between Rush and Jimmy. Most of all because Jimmy was just shooting off at the mouth after downing a few and Rush&#8217;s opinion was thought out and probably rehearsed. I still don&#8217;t see why Jimmy was fired though.</p>
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		<title>By: Bones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s mighty generous of you to give Rush the benefit of the doubt about being racist.  But you&#039;re wrong.  Listen to his show for a few weeks (if you can stand it), or read some of the online transcripts. 

The man is definitely a racist. Or at the very least, he pretends to be on his radio show.  And I really doubt that he&#039;s pretending, why would he bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mighty generous of you to give Rush the benefit of the doubt about being racist.  But you&#8217;re wrong.  Listen to his show for a few weeks (if you can stand it), or read some of the online transcripts. </p>
<p>The man is definitely a racist. Or at the very least, he pretends to be on his radio show.  And I really doubt that he&#8217;s pretending, why would he bother?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby,
The anonimity was accidental, but more to the point... the reason I asked if you remembered what The Greek said is because you said it was true, and I&#039;m not sure I agree with that. Certainly Kenyans, largely considered the best long distance runners in the world, are good because of slave breeding. A stretch, yes, but you see what I&#039;m getting at. I don&#039;t think a comparison can be made between what Rush said and what Jimmy said. Rush was right...the Philly defense did carry that team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby,<br />
The anonimity was accidental, but more to the point&#8230; the reason I asked if you remembered what The Greek said is because you said it was true, and I&#8217;m not sure I agree with that. Certainly Kenyans, largely considered the best long distance runners in the world, are good because of slave breeding. A stretch, yes, but you see what I&#8217;m getting at. I don&#8217;t think a comparison can be made between what Rush said and what Jimmy said. Rush was right&#8230;the Philly defense did carry that team.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous Jimmy the Greek Guy,

Yes I remember what he said. He said that black athletes are stronger and faster because during slavery they would breed the large black males with the large black females to produce larger, stronger, and more productive slaves for the next generation. Of course that&#039;s a paraphrase because like I said before Jimmy was drunk and I don&#039;t think he was so sensitive in his wording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous Jimmy the Greek Guy,</p>
<p>Yes I remember what he said. He said that black athletes are stronger and faster because during slavery they would breed the large black males with the large black females to produce larger, stronger, and more productive slaves for the next generation. Of course that&#8217;s a paraphrase because like I said before Jimmy was drunk and I don&#8217;t think he was so sensitive in his wording.</p>
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		<title>By: qmony</title>
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		<dc:creator>qmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush was right. But ESPN was wrong to force him out. By the way &quot;affirmative action&quot; is racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush was right. But ESPN was wrong to force him out. By the way &#8220;affirmative action&#8221; is racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby,
Do you remember what Jimmy the Greek said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby,<br />
Do you remember what Jimmy the Greek said?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ian Dodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ian Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush is the right&#039;s Michael Moore...nuff said. Not surprised he finally did something stupid, he has an ego and is arrogant as hell. This should be fun to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush is the right&#8217;s Michael Moore&#8230;nuff said. Not surprised he finally did something stupid, he has an ego and is arrogant as hell. This should be fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J. Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.J. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, though, that Limbaugh is being forced out for doing what he was hired to do (be provocative). Also, I couldn&#039;t begin to tell you how many columnists/sports talkers have contended Brian Urlacher has been overrated because the media has held out hope that he succeed because he&#039;s white. (we&#039;re finding out Urlacher has been overrated, at least of late)

Donovan McNabb had a Pro Bowl year in 2001 and a half of one last year. His first couple of years were decent, but he didn&#039;t really get the starting job until 2000. And he&#039;s very, very young for a QB. Few QBs come in and light things up the first few years. McNabb learned the offense quickly, and shows a better than average flair for reading defenses on the fly. IMO he&#039;s more of a RH Steve Young than Randall Cunningham. The jury&#039;s still out on him, but he&#039;s just 27.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, though, that Limbaugh is being forced out for doing what he was hired to do (be provocative). Also, I couldn&#8217;t begin to tell you how many columnists/sports talkers have contended Brian Urlacher has been overrated because the media has held out hope that he succeed because he&#8217;s white. (we&#8217;re finding out Urlacher has been overrated, at least of late)</p>
<p>Donovan McNabb had a Pro Bowl year in 2001 and a half of one last year. His first couple of years were decent, but he didn&#8217;t really get the starting job until 2000. And he&#8217;s very, very young for a QB. Few QBs come in and light things up the first few years. McNabb learned the offense quickly, and shows a better than average flair for reading defenses on the fly. IMO he&#8217;s more of a RH Steve Young than Randall Cunningham. The jury&#8217;s still out on him, but he&#8217;s just 27.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Boardley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Boardley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand ESPN, they hired Rush to stir the pot. To make outragous comments. Once he does it they run for cover. 

I don&#039;t agree with Rush, but I don&#039;t see why he has to quit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand ESPN, they hired Rush to stir the pot. To make outragous comments. Once he does it they run for cover. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Rush, but I don&#8217;t see why he has to quit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jimmy the Greek comment made earlier was intended to show racism in the world of sportscasting, but I see it as yet another example of race discussion being squelched. What Jimmy the Greek said was all true. The network execs. just got scared and canned him. I think the fact that he was clearly drunk when he said it didn&#039;t help his case though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jimmy the Greek comment made earlier was intended to show racism in the world of sportscasting, but I see it as yet another example of race discussion being squelched. What Jimmy the Greek said was all true. The network execs. just got scared and canned him. I think the fact that he was clearly drunk when he said it didn&#8217;t help his case though.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article about McNabb written back in 2001. Have a look....


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/chapman200310020955.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/chapman200310020955.asp&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article about McNabb written back in 2001. Have a look&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/chapman200310020955.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/chapman200310020955.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I hate Rush.

With that on the table, lets&#039; take a close look at what he actually said.

Taken in context, Rush slammed the sports media more than McNabb.  All he said about McNabb wss that he thought #5 got too much credit for the Eagles&#039; successes.  

Seems to me Rush was lambasting the sports media that &quot;has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.&quot;  He wasn&#039;t blaming McNabb for anything. He was blaming the media for making a hero out of McNabb when they made their playoff run last year, but being hesitant about roasting him whe the Eagles struggled this season.

Like him or not, stats or no stats, Rush has a right to say that he thinks McNabb is overrated.    

What I find so funny is that not one sportswriter or sportscaster has taken issue with Rush about accusing them of giving McNabb special treatment.

The true way to prove Rush wrong would be to compile a catalog of articles and broadcast pieces that criticize McNabb.  I remember hearing some a few weeks ago.  Use those to prove Rush is the &quot;Big Fat Idiot&quot; that he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I hate Rush.</p>
<p>With that on the table, lets&#8217; take a close look at what he actually said.</p>
<p>Taken in context, Rush slammed the sports media more than McNabb.  All he said about McNabb wss that he thought #5 got too much credit for the Eagles&#8217; successes.  </p>
<p>Seems to me Rush was lambasting the sports media that &#8220;has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.&#8221;  He wasn&#8217;t blaming McNabb for anything. He was blaming the media for making a hero out of McNabb when they made their playoff run last year, but being hesitant about roasting him whe the Eagles struggled this season.</p>
<p>Like him or not, stats or no stats, Rush has a right to say that he thinks McNabb is overrated.    </p>
<p>What I find so funny is that not one sportswriter or sportscaster has taken issue with Rush about accusing them of giving McNabb special treatment.</p>
<p>The true way to prove Rush wrong would be to compile a catalog of articles and broadcast pieces that criticize McNabb.  I remember hearing some a few weeks ago.  Use those to prove Rush is the &#8220;Big Fat Idiot&#8221; that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Off Wing Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Off Wing Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More Limbaugh Fallout&lt;/strong&gt;

Rush Limbaugh gave a speech to the National Association of Broadcasters this morning in Philadelphia where he gave some more
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More Limbaugh Fallout</strong></p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh gave a speech to the National Association of Broadcasters this morning in Philadelphia where he gave some more</p>
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