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By: Jim Bob

Jim Bob — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:29:41 +0000

Just take a .22 caliber rifle and shoot the g*dd*mn things out until the city learns its lesson.

By: Lee

Lee — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:27:34 +0000

There are 2 issues here. One is the short yellows. One is the red light cameras.

Just because there are short yellows does not make cameras wrong. It makes the short yellows wrong. You can be against the cameras for other reasons (can’t face your accused, invasion of privacy, etc) but claiming that the short yellows make the camera wrong is a specious agrument.

But it still comes down to if you can’t pay the fine, do not do the crime.

I did not say that I had an excellent driving record, just that I never UNintentionally ran a red light. Short yellows and all.

By: Licquia.org

Licquia.org — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:00:41 +0000

Tweaking traffic lights for more tickets

At least, if you believe
CBS
News, anyway. (Via
InstaPundit and
TheAgitator.)

How does it work? It’s simple. A city installs red light cameras at
intersections, which snap pictures of the license plates of cars that
run the light. Anyone so snap

By: "Nolo Consentire"

"Nolo Consentire" — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:22:43 +0000

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By: Douglas

Douglas — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:43:58 +0000

Google “Matt Labash red light camera” for an excellent 5-part series on this topic.It is a crooked, corrupt business.The people who cannot see this are sheep,ripe for the fleecing.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:58:23 +0000

It’s bad out here in California too: All the yellows in the city I live in are about 5 seconds, plus another two seconds before the cross traffic light goes green; the city where I work has decided instead to set up traffic cameras and shorten the yellows to 3 seconds. I think it will take a civil suit to stop this, but honestly, most of the people who get nailed are just going to pony up the money and move on.

By: Donald Campbell

Donald Campbell — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:49:33 +0000

No one mentioned what to me is the obvious problem with this. Anyone charged with a crime has the right to face his/her accuser in a court of law. WHO (not what) is the accuser in this case?
In my one and only ‘ticket’ for running a red light in 35 years of driving, the Deputy had to admit that from the angle he was at, he could not see the light turn red. I also could state that the light remained yellow until I could no longer see it because of my car’s roof. I paid $200.00 for a Lawyer to represent me for a probably $50.00 ticket, and went to Court, because I HAD BEEN FALSELY ACCUSED.
We have to look no further than fark.com to see how easy it is to digitally alter photos now days, and no, the line of reasoning that local Governments are too incompetent to launch a conspiracy is just a straw man argument. As long as there is a reasonable doubt, the ‘criminal’ is considered innocent. I have seen far too many articles where local city councils discussed these as ‘revenue streams’ to not give the benefit of my doubt to the people being ticketed.
For those of you who want to claim the ‘infallibility’ of the digital cameras, I remember a local news article a month or two back where a VA Beach man was traffic-cammed in Northern VA while several witnesses were willing to swear that both the man and his car were in VA Beach all day.