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	<title>Comments on: White House on Iraq:  Just Kidding.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2003 20:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m baffled, more than anything! 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m baffled, more than anything! </p>
<p>Why on earth would anyone in the administration want to leak this sort of information, at least right now? And if it&#8217;s true, how come this piece of news hasn&#8217;t created more of a stir?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Ruffini</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21427</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a lie to admit that the murder of 3,000 American civilians is a perfectly appropriate casus belli? 

Now, &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/i&gt; confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a lie to admit that the murder of 3,000 American civilians is a perfectly appropriate casus belli? </p>
<p>Now, <i>I&#8217;m</i> confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Damn It To Hell</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21438</link>
		<dc:creator>Damn It To Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Depressing very depressing&lt;/strong&gt;

Go read this. I am going to bed, I feel sick after reading it. I agree with the article completely
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Depressing very depressing</strong></p>
<p>Go read this. I am going to bed, I feel sick after reading it. I agree with the article completely</p>
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		<title>By: Ken White</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21426</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 01:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Ken is not this Ken but he does raise two interesting points:

     A. The White House and its various occupants have been lying about war and death for almost two hundred years -- as it/they will probably continue to do so, accepting such lies may not be an option so much as almost inevitable.

     B. &quot;Over&quot; oral sex or under -- play it as it lies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Ken is not this Ken but he does raise two interesting points:</p>
<p>     A. The White House and its various occupants have been lying about war and death for almost two hundred years &#8212; as it/they will probably continue to do so, accepting such lies may not be an option so much as almost inevitable.</p>
<p>     B. &#8220;Over&#8221; oral sex or under &#8212; play it as it lies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21425</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the rest of you, but I will accept lies from the White House over war and death, but over oral sex...never. 

That would be inexcusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you, but I will accept lies from the White House over war and death, but over oral sex&#8230;never. </p>
<p>That would be inexcusable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken White</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21424</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it difficult to believe that any person devoting more than a few minutes thought to the attack on Iraq truly beleived it was anything but a &quot;message.&quot;

Oil made no sense; oil companies hate turmoil; revenge for Poppy&#039;s failure/attack attempt made no sense; the Al Qaeda link was beyond tenuous; the WMD have been either destroyed or moved to Syria..  The Harvard MBA had a problem -- terrorism / Palestine -- and like any good MBA, decided to remove the sources(s) of the problem.  He did say, early on &quot;regime change&quot; and that it would take years.  It will.

The real concern now should be that it was, in a manner of speaking, too easy.  The Baathists will lay low for a few years until we&#039;re gone and then try to reassert themselves.

A minor point is that there is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes or does not auytthorize such operations.  We&#039;ve been doing stuff like that for over two hundred years, starting with the Barbary Pirates in 1801.  This one just happened to be bigger than most.

Bigger then Kosovo, which after all, was a nothing but a regime change not authorized or sanctioned by the U.N&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it difficult to believe that any person devoting more than a few minutes thought to the attack on Iraq truly beleived it was anything but a &#8220;message.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oil made no sense; oil companies hate turmoil; revenge for Poppy&#8217;s failure/attack attempt made no sense; the Al Qaeda link was beyond tenuous; the WMD have been either destroyed or moved to Syria..  The Harvard MBA had a problem &#8212; terrorism / Palestine &#8212; and like any good MBA, decided to remove the sources(s) of the problem.  He did say, early on &#8220;regime change&#8221; and that it would take years.  It will.</p>
<p>The real concern now should be that it was, in a manner of speaking, too easy.  The Baathists will lay low for a few years until we&#8217;re gone and then try to reassert themselves.</p>
<p>A minor point is that there is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes or does not auytthorize such operations.  We&#8217;ve been doing stuff like that for over two hundred years, starting with the Barbary Pirates in 1801.  This one just happened to be bigger than most.</p>
<p>Bigger then Kosovo, which after all, was a nothing but a regime change not authorized or sanctioned by the U.N></p>
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		<title>By: sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but if the &quot;officials&quot; who said that are whitehouse janitors, then there&#039;s no need to worry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but if the &#8220;officials&#8221; who said that are whitehouse janitors, then there&#8217;s no need to worry</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21422</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if that is true then i feel tricked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if that is true then i feel tricked.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perry,

As a libertarian, I *would* expect you to give two hoots about the rule of law.

And if you live in a country where a constitution is the supreme law of the land, embarking on overseas military missions for reasons not authorized by said constitution shows a grave disprespect for the rule of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry,</p>
<p>As a libertarian, I *would* expect you to give two hoots about the rule of law.</p>
<p>And if you live in a country where a constitution is the supreme law of the land, embarking on overseas military missions for reasons not authorized by said constitution shows a grave disprespect for the rule of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21420</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley, You seems to have mistaken me for someone who gives a hoot about the US Constitution (yes, I realise that to most Americans saying that is like blowing your nose on Mona Lisa).  If a written constitution could stop people being disarmed by the state, prevent the travesty of &#039;eminent domain&#039;, stop super-territorial taxation and trial-less asset forfeiture, then I guess I would regard it has having been a success. It didn&#039;t and I don&#039;t.

Of course we do not know if Iraq will stay liberated any more than we knew Germany or Japan would not go back to their wicked fascist ways... but setting up a highly confederal system with broad regional autonomy would go a long way to ensuring that what comes after Ba&#039;athist Socialism is not nearly as bad... plus of course the threat of Pax Americana&#039;s big stick.  For all America&#039;s many and variegated flaws, it is vastly preferable to Ba&#039;athism or Islamofascism.  It is an imperfect world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley, You seems to have mistaken me for someone who gives a hoot about the US Constitution (yes, I realise that to most Americans saying that is like blowing your nose on Mona Lisa).  If a written constitution could stop people being disarmed by the state, prevent the travesty of &#8216;eminent domain&#8217;, stop super-territorial taxation and trial-less asset forfeiture, then I guess I would regard it has having been a success. It didn&#8217;t and I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Of course we do not know if Iraq will stay liberated any more than we knew Germany or Japan would not go back to their wicked fascist ways&#8230; but setting up a highly confederal system with broad regional autonomy would go a long way to ensuring that what comes after Ba&#8217;athist Socialism is not nearly as bad&#8230; plus of course the threat of Pax Americana&#8217;s big stick.  For all America&#8217;s many and variegated flaws, it is vastly preferable to Ba&#8217;athism or Islamofascism.  It is an imperfect world.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21419</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perry,

And where in the U.S. Constitution does it give authorization to use U.S. force and U.S. lives (not to mention U.S. tax dollars) to liberate the people of another country?

Or should we just ignore the Constitution on this one?

And how do we know they&#039;re going to stay &quot;liberated?&quot;  Given Iraq&#039;s Shiah majority, the only way we can ensure it is by effectively making Iraq the 51st state.  And is making another country an effective U.S. territory really liberating it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry,</p>
<p>And where in the U.S. Constitution does it give authorization to use U.S. force and U.S. lives (not to mention U.S. tax dollars) to liberate the people of another country?</p>
<p>Or should we just ignore the Constitution on this one?</p>
<p>And how do we know they&#8217;re going to stay &#8220;liberated?&#8221;  Given Iraq&#8217;s Shiah majority, the only way we can ensure it is by effectively making Iraq the 51st state.  And is making another country an effective U.S. territory really liberating it?</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21418</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 12:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect it is not legit.  But even if it was, it would not care much.  My support for overthrowing Ba&#039;athist Socialism in Iraq was only partially predicated on enhancing US and UK security, the main reason I saw to liberate Iraq was ... to liberate IRAQIS.  Liberation is justification enough.

And yes, it this turns into Operation Perpetual Whoopass (i.e. Syria, N Korea etc)... well I am fine with that too if they can be done at an acceptable cost (clearly that is the &#039;Big If&#039;).  First lets get rid of the greater evil and then start on the lesser evils closer to home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it is not legit.  But even if it was, it would not care much.  My support for overthrowing Ba&#8217;athist Socialism in Iraq was only partially predicated on enhancing US and UK security, the main reason I saw to liberate Iraq was &#8230; to liberate IRAQIS.  Liberation is justification enough.</p>
<p>And yes, it this turns into Operation Perpetual Whoopass (i.e. Syria, N Korea etc)&#8230; well I am fine with that too if they can be done at an acceptable cost (clearly that is the &#8216;Big If&#8217;).  First lets get rid of the greater evil and then start on the lesser evils closer to home.</p>
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		<title>By: B Kieffer</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21417</link>
		<dc:creator>B Kieffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 08:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I choose to believe that this story is exaggerated and from a source that is not credible..... because the alternative scares the crap out of me. 

Terrorism doesn&#039;t worry me nearly as much as the power grab that inevitably occurs during times of percieved national crisis, which we&#039;ve already seen plenty of evidence of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I choose to believe that this story is exaggerated and from a source that is not credible&#8230;.. because the alternative scares the crap out of me. </p>
<p>Terrorism doesn&#8217;t worry me nearly as much as the power grab that inevitably occurs during times of percieved national crisis, which we&#8217;ve already seen plenty of evidence of.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Claybourn's Domain</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/25/white-house-on-iraq-just-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-21437</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Claybourn's Domain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2003 08:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Just Kidding?&lt;/strong&gt;

Radley Balko, who may be my favorite anti-war blogger, has a provocative post up that I pray isn&#039;t true. It&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Just Kidding?</strong></p>
<p>Radley Balko, who may be my favorite anti-war blogger, has a provocative post up that I pray isn&#8217;t true. It&#8217;s</p>
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