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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Florida Politics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gov. John Ellis Bush - sometimes referred to as &quot;Jeb!&quot; - is a converted Catholic, yet signs death penalty warrants left and right.  Not a peep from the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. John Ellis Bush &#8211; sometimes referred to as &#8220;Jeb!&#8221; &#8211; is a converted Catholic, yet signs death penalty warrants left and right.  Not a peep from the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Florida Politics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gov. John Ellis Bush - sometimes referred to as &quot;Jeb!&quot; - is a converted Catholic, yet signs death penalty warrants left and right.  Not a peep from the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. John Ellis Bush &#8211; sometimes referred to as &#8220;Jeb!&#8221; &#8211; is a converted Catholic, yet signs death penalty warrants left and right.  Not a peep from the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Drayton Flowers</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21033</link>
		<dc:creator>Drayton Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learn about the man who tells the conservatives what to think. Their Savior.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX&lt;/a&gt;

November 12, 2002: FTR 291: From Kennebunkport to Pearl Harbor: Bush, Moon, &amp; the Rising Sun. (rerun from 6/11/01) 
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Brooke speaks with Nansook Hong, author of In the Shadow of the Moons (Little Brown). Ms. Hong was the former daughter-in-law of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church. She broke away from the church, and left her husband, Hyo Jin, Moon&#039;&#039;s heir apparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learn about the man who tells the conservatives what to think. Their Savior.</p>
<p><a href="http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX" rel="nofollow">http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX</a></p>
<p>November 12, 2002: FTR 291: From Kennebunkport to Pearl Harbor: Bush, Moon, &#038; the Rising Sun. (rerun from 6/11/01)<br />
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Brooke speaks with Nansook Hong, author of In the Shadow of the Moons (Little Brown). Ms. Hong was the former daughter-in-law of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church. She broke away from the church, and left her husband, Hyo Jin, Moon&#8221;s heir apparent.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Cribman</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21032</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Cribman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2003 04:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush named another long time moonie to assistant trade rep. Any study of Moon will tell you this isn&#039;t your Kennedy/Pope thing. Moon has every intention of manipulating the world to his goals. Anyone who is a member has the same goal. It is of CONSTANT thought of all his followers. He is their Messiah.

If you think about how close it was in 2000, does anyone think that without Moon&#039;s billions spent over the last couple decades, propping up theocratic/fascist thought, (Moon owns and has personally directed the Washington Times) that Bush would have been close enough to steal the election? Not a chance. Billions to right wing think tanks, the paper, individuals(Moon bailed out Falwell for one of many)

Moon, In his mind and in fact, had more to do with selecting our president than ANY American. Tell that to your mother and see what she says as she pulls that rpub lever. haha

Look at our world. Moon is all over it too, his group is handing out membership cards so they can identify one another when and if, the world&#039;s economies collapse. You can lump Moon any way you want, make no mistake, he or whoever is behind him is driving the bus and the conservatives put him there.

Moon IS laughing his ass off.
Hey this is the tip of the iceberg...
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html&lt;/a&gt;

Moon gave a million bucks to Bush&#039;s presidential library, what would the hypocrites on the right say if Clinton took that kind of money? hahaha We live in a strange world. Our conservative breathern have no idea what they are doing. I know ten people right now who I can listen to Rush today and tell you what they will think they thought up tomorrow. They are auto pilot and Rove knows it. Scary stuff. Moonies, I have read threads at FR where they &quot;thank God for Rev. Moon&quot; you think the right doesn&#039;t have some serious mental health problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush named another long time moonie to assistant trade rep. Any study of Moon will tell you this isn&#8217;t your Kennedy/Pope thing. Moon has every intention of manipulating the world to his goals. Anyone who is a member has the same goal. It is of CONSTANT thought of all his followers. He is their Messiah.</p>
<p>If you think about how close it was in 2000, does anyone think that without Moon&#8217;s billions spent over the last couple decades, propping up theocratic/fascist thought, (Moon owns and has personally directed the Washington Times) that Bush would have been close enough to steal the election? Not a chance. Billions to right wing think tanks, the paper, individuals(Moon bailed out Falwell for one of many)</p>
<p>Moon, In his mind and in fact, had more to do with selecting our president than ANY American. Tell that to your mother and see what she says as she pulls that rpub lever. haha</p>
<p>Look at our world. Moon is all over it too, his group is handing out membership cards so they can identify one another when and if, the world&#8217;s economies collapse. You can lump Moon any way you want, make no mistake, he or whoever is behind him is driving the bus and the conservatives put him there.</p>
<p>Moon IS laughing his ass off.<br />
Hey this is the tip of the iceberg&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html</a></p>
<p>Moon gave a million bucks to Bush&#8217;s presidential library, what would the hypocrites on the right say if Clinton took that kind of money? hahaha We live in a strange world. Our conservative breathern have no idea what they are doing. I know ten people right now who I can listen to Rush today and tell you what they will think they thought up tomorrow. They are auto pilot and Rove knows it. Scary stuff. Moonies, I have read threads at FR where they &#8220;thank God for Rev. Moon&#8221; you think the right doesn&#8217;t have some serious mental health problems?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Krempasky</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Krempasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blondie - Augustine later repudiated when science caught up to him. His misunderstanding (quickening and all) was simply a failure of science to inform us when life began.

And Catholics for Choice is neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blondie &#8211; Augustine later repudiated when science caught up to him. His misunderstanding (quickening and all) was simply a failure of science to inform us when life began.</p>
<p>And Catholics for Choice is neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Blondie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>St. Augustine: Early Abortion Is Not Homicide

St. Augustine (354-430) condemned abortion because it breaks the connection between sex and procreation. 1 However, in the Enchiridion, he says, &quot;But who is not rather disposed to think that unformed fetuses perish like seeds which have not fructified&quot; â?? clearly seeing hominization as beginning or occurring at some point after the fetus has begun to grow. He held that abortion was not an act of homicide. Most theologians of his era agreed with him.

In a disciplinary sense, the general agreement at this time was that abortion was a sin requiring penance if it was intended to conceal fornication and adultery.

*****
I wonder how many fundie Republicans we could catch with THAT particular net?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>St. Augustine: Early Abortion Is Not Homicide</p>
<p>St. Augustine (354-430) condemned abortion because it breaks the connection between sex and procreation. 1 However, in the Enchiridion, he says, &#8220;But who is not rather disposed to think that unformed fetuses perish like seeds which have not fructified&#8221; â?? clearly seeing hominization as beginning or occurring at some point after the fetus has begun to grow. He held that abortion was not an act of homicide. Most theologians of his era agreed with him.</p>
<p>In a disciplinary sense, the general agreement at this time was that abortion was a sin requiring penance if it was intended to conceal fornication and adultery.</p>
<p>*****<br />
I wonder how many fundie Republicans we could catch with THAT particular net?</p>
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		<title>By: Blondie</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21028</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cath4choice.org/nobandwidth/English/cathwomen/abortiondecision.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cath4choice.org/nobandwidth/English/cathwomen/abortiondecision.htm&lt;/a&gt;

Lots of information here. No, the Church has not always been against abortion - it was considered a moral wrong but not to the point of excommunication.</description>
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<p>Lots of information here. No, the Church has not always been against abortion &#8211; it was considered a moral wrong but not to the point of excommunication.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Galt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21027</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 21:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all,  Tom Daschle is not in communion with the church.  He&#039;s divorced.  He isn&#039;t entitled to call himself Catholic, any more than I&#039;m entitled to call myself Catholic.  Given that he also doesn&#039;t support them theologically, and does act legislatively to facilitate something that the Church has classified as one of the four &quot;sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance&quot;, I don&#039;t actually think it&#039;s unreasonable for the Bishop to ask a man who does not participate in the sacraments of the church to stop identifying himself as a member of that church.

Incidentally, the Church&#039;s stance on the death penalty is even more recent, and less theologically binding, than its stance on abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all,  Tom Daschle is not in communion with the church.  He&#8217;s divorced.  He isn&#8217;t entitled to call himself Catholic, any more than I&#8217;m entitled to call myself Catholic.  Given that he also doesn&#8217;t support them theologically, and does act legislatively to facilitate something that the Church has classified as one of the four &#8220;sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance&#8221;, I don&#8217;t actually think it&#8217;s unreasonable for the Bishop to ask a man who does not participate in the sacraments of the church to stop identifying himself as a member of that church.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the Church&#8217;s stance on the death penalty is even more recent, and less theologically binding, than its stance on abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21026</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related to Brian&#039;s comment several posts up, but a slightly different take:  the RCC says teaches that a woman may not have an abortion, but does it say also that governments must penalize it? I think not.  The church teaches on matters of individual morality; I don&#039;t think the Pope considers himself a political philosopher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to Brian&#8217;s comment several posts up, but a slightly different take:  the RCC says teaches that a woman may not have an abortion, but does it say also that governments must penalize it? I think not.  The church teaches on matters of individual morality; I don&#8217;t think the Pope considers himself a political philosopher.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, kemptonslim.  I was referring to the previous post.  We must have done a simultaneous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, kemptonslim.  I was referring to the previous post.  We must have done a simultaneous.</p>
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		<title>By: letting you know</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21023</link>
		<dc:creator>letting you know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multi pronged effort by the conservatives. They get to show that THESE people are not in good standing with THEIR religion and thus are not in good standing with GOD.  This makes it easier for the pod mind to ignore anything these individuals say, after all, &quot;God doesn&#039;t approve of them, why should I?&quot; Keeps those pod minds closed like a Chik-Fil-A on Sunday.

They get to further divide the Catholic Church (anyone who thinks conservatism is a friend of Catholicism is damb fool.)

This subject will be huge fodder for deceitful, hypocritical conservatives on talk radio and Fox TV.

The question is, do the pro-choicer&#039;s/democrats have the balls to challenge the &#039;conservatives&#039; on the same front?

Conservatives work with, take money from, honor and empower Rev. Moon. Why not demand that these hypocrites DENOUNCE their &#039;sugar daddy&#039; and &#039;go to&#039; guy. Moon claims he is the Messiah, says Jesus Christ FAILED and Moon says he detests &#039;American style democracy&#039;....all in all, I&#039;d say it is high time the conservatives go on TV and disown their savior, Moon. You are with him or against him. They should denounce Moon or STOP CALLING THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS. 

George Bush 43 shouldn&#039;t call Moon &#039;the man with the vision&#039; while helping him gain credibility and power and then call himself a &quot;Christian&quot; ...this is fraud.

George Bush 41 shouldn&#039;t have Moon sponsor his inaugural prayer luncheon, then hand out moonie literature afterward promoting Moon, and then claim to be &quot;Christian&quot;...

Republican&#039;s should not work with Moon to implement his agenda of driving us towards a theocratic government and still call themselves &#039;defender&#039;s of the constitution&#039;...this is a fraud.

From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs6013.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs6013.htm&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;The &quot;faith-based summit&quot; itself was sponsored by Watts (R-Okla.), Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and other top congressional Republicans, but efforts to promote it at the grassroots level were turned over to a Moon organization . . . 

While a number of Republican-aligned private organizations have promoted President George W. Bushâ??s religion funding scheme, only Moon won an official relationship with the Republican leadership to rally grassroots forces on behalf of the &quot;faith-based&quot; summit. This enhanced status enabled him to do grassroots political organizing â?? and religious recruitment â?? with the apparent blessing of Bush and his GOP allies in Congress.
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Conservatives who claim to support the constitution and claim to be &#039;Christians&#039; should go on TV and denounce their &#039;sugar daddy&#039; their &#039;go to&#039; guy for the last twenty years. They should beg forgiveness from Jesus Christ and when they are done they can beg forgiveness from the American people...they should admit their movement is real evil and would not be in power without the systematic deceit foisted on the American public over the last twenty years. The conservative movement in America is nothing more than the John Birch Society on steroids. It&#039;s short sightedness will destroy the nation/world as it is well on its way to doing.

Moon is laughing his ass off.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies/chronicles/a_moon_primer.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multi pronged effort by the conservatives. They get to show that THESE people are not in good standing with THEIR religion and thus are not in good standing with GOD.  This makes it easier for the pod mind to ignore anything these individuals say, after all, &#8220;God doesn&#8217;t approve of them, why should I?&#8221; Keeps those pod minds closed like a Chik-Fil-A on Sunday.</p>
<p>They get to further divide the Catholic Church (anyone who thinks conservatism is a friend of Catholicism is damb fool.)</p>
<p>This subject will be huge fodder for deceitful, hypocritical conservatives on talk radio and Fox TV.</p>
<p>The question is, do the pro-choicer&#8217;s/democrats have the balls to challenge the &#8216;conservatives&#8217; on the same front?</p>
<p>Conservatives work with, take money from, honor and empower Rev. Moon. Why not demand that these hypocrites DENOUNCE their &#8216;sugar daddy&#8217; and &#8216;go to&#8217; guy. Moon claims he is the Messiah, says Jesus Christ FAILED and Moon says he detests &#8216;American style democracy&#8217;&#8230;.all in all, I&#8217;d say it is high time the conservatives go on TV and disown their savior, Moon. You are with him or against him. They should denounce Moon or STOP CALLING THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS. </p>
<p>George Bush 43 shouldn&#8217;t call Moon &#8216;the man with the vision&#8217; while helping him gain credibility and power and then call himself a &#8220;Christian&#8221; &#8230;this is fraud.</p>
<p>George Bush 41 shouldn&#8217;t have Moon sponsor his inaugural prayer luncheon, then hand out moonie literature afterward promoting Moon, and then claim to be &#8220;Christian&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Republican&#8217;s should not work with Moon to implement his agenda of driving us towards a theocratic government and still call themselves &#8216;defender&#8217;s of the constitution&#8217;&#8230;this is a fraud.</p>
<p>From: <a href="http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs6013.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs6013.htm</a><br />
&#8220;The &#8220;faith-based summit&#8221; itself was sponsored by Watts (R-Okla.), Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and other top congressional Republicans, but efforts to promote it at the grassroots level were turned over to a Moon organization . . . </p>
<p>While a number of Republican-aligned private organizations have promoted President George W. Bushâ??s religion funding scheme, only Moon won an official relationship with the Republican leadership to rally grassroots forces on behalf of the &#8220;faith-based&#8221; summit. This enhanced status enabled him to do grassroots political organizing â?? and religious recruitment â?? with the apparent blessing of Bush and his GOP allies in Congress.<br />
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<p>Conservatives who claim to support the constitution and claim to be &#8216;Christians&#8217; should go on TV and denounce their &#8216;sugar daddy&#8217; their &#8216;go to&#8217; guy for the last twenty years. They should beg forgiveness from Jesus Christ and when they are done they can beg forgiveness from the American people&#8230;they should admit their movement is real evil and would not be in power without the systematic deceit foisted on the American public over the last twenty years. The conservative movement in America is nothing more than the John Birch Society on steroids. It&#8217;s short sightedness will destroy the nation/world as it is well on its way to doing.</p>
<p>Moon is laughing his ass off.</p>
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		<title>By: CrazyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Tom Daschle should start conforming to Catholocism and enact laws making molesting little boys legal.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian C.B.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21021</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian C.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Daschle is perfectly within his religious beliefs to excercise his legislative duties to permit an American woman determine whether to have an abortion. Voting for a law that required a woman to have an abortion would run afoul of the Church. However, let me point out that neither of these things has happened: The Federal government can elect to fund abortion or contraception to teach women about them, but it does not directly regulate it (traditionally and generally constitutionally the work of states). Remember, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, it would merely send the matters to state legislatures. The Bishop is saying that Daschle can&#039;t be Roman Catholic and &lt;b&gt;argue&lt;/b&gt; that the states should not forbid these matters to the extent that the Supreme Court permits. I do not think that Tom Daschles arguments are subject to Papal review or censure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Daschle is perfectly within his religious beliefs to excercise his legislative duties to permit an American woman determine whether to have an abortion. Voting for a law that required a woman to have an abortion would run afoul of the Church. However, let me point out that neither of these things has happened: The Federal government can elect to fund abortion or contraception to teach women about them, but it does not directly regulate it (traditionally and generally constitutionally the work of states). Remember, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, it would merely send the matters to state legislatures. The Bishop is saying that Daschle can&#8217;t be Roman Catholic and <b>argue</b> that the states should not forbid these matters to the extent that the Supreme Court permits. I do not think that Tom Daschles arguments are subject to Papal review or censure.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21020</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that wasn&#039;t the issue.  Perhaps you should re-read the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that wasn&#8217;t the issue.  Perhaps you should re-read the post.</p>
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		<title>By: kemptonslim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21019</link>
		<dc:creator>kemptonslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Weekly Standard would crow about a bishop getting on Rick Santorum&#039;s case for favoring the death penalty. Wait, that would demand that the right drop one of their many double standards.

The bishop must have forgotten that we&#039;re all sinners, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Weekly Standard would crow about a bishop getting on Rick Santorum&#8217;s case for favoring the death penalty. Wait, that would demand that the right drop one of their many double standards.</p>
<p>The bishop must have forgotten that we&#8217;re all sinners, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: tarbert</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21018</link>
		<dc:creator>tarbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So nobody can make the distinction between the Minority Leader of the U.S. Senate, an elected official who has ENORMOUS influemce and power over legislation which ultimately becomes the law of the land......

And a few columnists who write opinion pieces?

I guess Jonah Goldberg is off the hook...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nobody can make the distinction between the Minority Leader of the U.S. Senate, an elected official who has ENORMOUS influemce and power over legislation which ultimately becomes the law of the land&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>And a few columnists who write opinion pieces?</p>
<p>I guess Jonah Goldberg is off the hook&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Avedon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21017</link>
		<dc:creator>Avedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catholic canon has no prohibition against abortion - it was something they argued about, but they never came down on a side.  The whole anti-abortion thing is relatively modern.

I guess that means Catholics have to inform their own consciences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catholic canon has no prohibition against abortion &#8211; it was something they argued about, but they never came down on a side.  The whole anti-abortion thing is relatively modern.</p>
<p>I guess that means Catholics have to inform their own consciences.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2003/04/17/nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-21016</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2003 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is a politician bound to make decisions based on a personal morality?  It is possible to believe that abortion (in this case) is wrong but also that the risk to public health that would arise by making it illegal is the defining issue in making this policy decision.  Arguing that abortion should be legal is completely different than arguing that having an abortion is a laudable act.

Public policy, when made properly, is based on what impact it will have on a society - not whether or not it agrees with some narrow definition of morality...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is a politician bound to make decisions based on a personal morality?  It is possible to believe that abortion (in this case) is wrong but also that the risk to public health that would arise by making it illegal is the defining issue in making this policy decision.  Arguing that abortion should be legal is completely different than arguing that having an abortion is a laudable act.</p>
<p>Public policy, when made properly, is based on what impact it will have on a society &#8211; not whether or not it agrees with some narrow definition of morality&#8230;</p>
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