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]]> By: Tony http://www.theagitator.com/2002/08/29/cuban-diary/comment-page-1/#comment-1821 Tony Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:23:31 +0000 http://dev.theagitator.com/?p=506#comment-1821 i am British and my wife and i visited Cuba lst year (2003). i am an old lefty who is getting wiser and more pragmatic (ok, further to the right, if you insist!) as i get older. i applaud the Cubans and their revolution and their efforts to live for themselves and not for the profit of big corps or the mafia (interchangable). The anonymous diarist was not wrong in all that he said and it is easy to get very pissed off by the poor food etc, but he has exagerated the situation. For instance i simply do not believe that citizens are forced to have medication. He either invented that or misconstrude what he had heard, i just don't believe it. He is right about the people, they are great. In fact their incredible generosity, i believe, contributd to their present poor state. If they had had their revolutiuon and just consolidated their position rather than expending energies exporting their revolutionary experince to other peasants around the world, to say nothing of the financial and material support, they could by now have a more prosperous life. He also did not include the paranoid US embargo and its effect on its economy or the collapse of the Soviet markets. He didn't remark on the fact that a chamber maid, with all the dollar tips, earns more than a doctor or teacher. Even as a Cuba supporter i know this cannot be right. But when you have a perverted economy these anomolies occur. With all the criticisms you may have of the country, and i have many, expecting capitalism to solve it all would be a huge and simplistic mistake. It is not commonly known, or admitted to by Castro, but he is taking a pragmatic line, in tourism at least, and working towards a mixed economy. They are valuing their architectural heritage and trying to preserve the building whilst renovating and modernising them. i wish them the very best of luck, they certainly deserve a break. America should stretch out a hand of reconsiliation and acknowedge that their close neighbour is not a threat but a potential friend. The Cuban's are wonderful and peace loving people and the Americans could learn a lot from them. i am British and my wife and i visited Cuba lst year (2003). i am an old lefty who is getting wiser and more pragmatic (ok, further to the right, if you insist!) as i get older. i applaud the Cubans and their revolution and their efforts to live for themselves and not for the profit of big corps or the mafia (interchangable). The anonymous diarist was not wrong in all that he said and it is easy to get very pissed off by the poor food etc, but he has exagerated the situation. For instance i simply do not believe that citizens are forced to have medication. He either invented that or misconstrude what he had heard, i just don’t believe it. He is right about the people, they are great. In fact their incredible generosity, i believe, contributd to their present poor state. If they had had their revolutiuon and just consolidated their position rather than expending energies exporting their revolutionary experince to other peasants around the world, to say nothing of the financial and material support, they could by now have a more prosperous life.
He also did not include the paranoid US embargo and its effect on its economy or the collapse of the Soviet markets. He didn’t remark on the fact that a chamber maid, with all the dollar tips, earns more than a doctor or teacher. Even as a Cuba supporter i know this cannot be right. But when you have a perverted economy these anomolies occur.
With all the criticisms you may have of the country, and i have many, expecting capitalism to solve it all would be a huge and simplistic mistake. It is not commonly known, or admitted to by Castro, but he is taking a pragmatic line, in tourism at least, and working towards a mixed economy. They are valuing their architectural heritage and trying to preserve the building whilst renovating and modernising them.
i wish them the very best of luck, they certainly deserve a break. America should stretch out a hand of reconsiliation and acknowedge that their close neighbour is not a threat but a potential friend. The Cuban’s are wonderful and peace loving people and the Americans could learn a lot from them.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.theagitator.com/2002/08/29/cuban-diary/comment-page-1/#comment-1820 Thomas Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:50:56 +0000 http://dev.theagitator.com/?p=506#comment-1820 Nice post. I was in Cuba some 10 years ago with my girlfriend (we are Canadians, btw). We were in Varadero. Overall, it was an interesting experience, but we do not think we'd ever go back again... Food quality / prices same as you described. Transportation ditto. We tried to buy some fresh fruit. Cuba, subtropics, right? Wrong. Only thing the whole Varadero at that time (August) had was .... limes. Officially, we were not permitted to buy anything since we were foreigners. I do speak some Spanish, and I guess shopkeeper wanted to be helpful, so we got a pound of limes. No cost, he refused money (even US$). So we gave him Marlboros (if you go to Cuba, pack some, make excellent gifts / tips / currency). Another recollection - scores of kids begging for chewing gum. We were ready - I opened a pack and offered one to a 7-year old boy. He grabbed the whole pack and ran away.. no I do not blame him.. Anyway - great for eye opening. Do NOT go if you expect comfort, reasonable prices, etc. It helps to speak Spanish. And oh I almost forgot - we were thoroughly searched (20 min or so) since I packed issue of TIME with an article about Cuba. Customs officers saw it in my handbag and did not like it... If you go, enjoy. T Nice post. I was in Cuba some 10 years ago with my girlfriend (we are Canadians, btw). We were in Varadero.
Overall, it was an interesting experience, but we do not think we’d ever go back again…

Food quality / prices same as you described. Transportation ditto.

We tried to buy some fresh fruit. Cuba, subtropics, right? Wrong. Only thing
the whole Varadero at that time (August) had was …. limes.

Officially, we were not permitted to buy
anything since we were foreigners. I do
speak some Spanish, and I guess shopkeeper wanted to be helpful, so we
got a pound of limes. No cost, he refused money (even US$). So we gave him
Marlboros (if you go to Cuba, pack some,
make excellent gifts / tips / currency).

Another recollection – scores of kids
begging for chewing gum. We were ready
- I opened a pack and offered one to
a 7-year old boy. He grabbed the whole
pack and ran away.. no I do not blame him..

Anyway – great for eye opening. Do NOT go if you expect comfort, reasonable prices, etc. It helps to speak Spanish.

And oh I almost forgot – we were thoroughly searched (20 min or so)
since I packed issue of TIME with
an article about Cuba. Customs officers
saw it in my handbag and did not like it…

If you go, enjoy.

T

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.theagitator.com/2002/08/29/cuban-diary/comment-page-1/#comment-1819 Anonymous Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:29:48 +0000 http://dev.theagitator.com/?p=506#comment-1819 This diary entry saddened me a great deal. I sat in the "Sugar Bar", on the top of the Havana Hilton, one night in 1959, and watched the muzzle flashes from the rifles of Castro's advance into the city. At that time, I had no idea of what those flashes portended. I left Havana for the last time the next morning. Cuba, at that time, was one of the most beautiful places in the world. The Cuban people were warm, friendly, and gracious almost to a fault. Maybe it will be that way again ...... alas, I'm not healthy enough now to go there to enjoy that Cuba again. Perhaps my grandsons will be able to do so, and enjoy the Cuba I knew. jburke This diary entry saddened me a great deal. I sat in the “Sugar Bar”, on the top of the Havana Hilton, one night in 1959, and watched the muzzle flashes from the rifles of Castro’s advance into the city. At that time, I had no idea of what those flashes portended. I left Havana for the last time the next morning.

Cuba, at that time, was one of the most beautiful places in the world. The Cuban people were warm, friendly, and gracious almost to a fault. Maybe it will be that way again …… alas, I’m not healthy enough now to go there to enjoy that Cuba again. Perhaps my grandsons will be able to do so, and enjoy the Cuba I knew.
jburke

]]> By: Q http://www.theagitator.com/2002/08/29/cuban-diary/comment-page-1/#comment-1818 Q Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:38:41 +0000 http://dev.theagitator.com/?p=506#comment-1818 Not that I was planning to go, but I'll wait til Castro kicks the bucket, thanks. Not that I was planning to go, but I’ll wait til Castro kicks the bucket, thanks.

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